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PJMcK

(22,048 posts) Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:23 PM Dec 2018

Is Trump snorting speed?

There seems to be quite a bit of circumstantial and unconfirmed evidence that Trump snorts crushed Adderall. Much of his behavior is indicative of someone who chronically abuses amphetamines so it opens the door to consider the possibility.

But how is it possible that the President of the United States is abusing drugs?! There must be so many people who would know this if it were true. Certainly, his family would know. His closest advisors and "friends" (he has none) would know. The Secret Service would know. His body man would know. The White House staff would know. Republican Congressional leaders must know.

It boggles the mind!

Here's a description of the drug:

Adderall is a prescription medication used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy. Adderall, a brand name, is a combination of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine, which are central nervous system stimulants.

I'm willing to go out on a limb. To be clear, this is entirely unfounded speculation but it's based on my 40 years of living and working in New York City.

If Trump is an amphetamine addict, it would be easy for him to procure the drugs. Remember his so-called "doctor," Bornstein? I don't think the good doctor had any problem prescribing drugs for Trump. There are some unscrupulous medical practitioners that I've come across in my life in NYC and Bornstein just screams out to me as a doctor who would prescribe nearly anything you'd ask for.

Further, remember when Bornstein revealed that Trump had used some hair-growth medication? Suddenly, Trump's bodyguards/goons raided Bornstein's office and absconded with Trump's medical records. Here's a report from that event:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/01/us/politics/trump-doctor-harold-bornstein.html

Trump must have realized that Bornstein's records were out there and he had to control that evidence. Sort of smart of him because it illustrates an ability to project trouble in the future. Of course, Trump does that all the time in his efforts to hide his unacceptable behavior. One point against Trump: medical records are private. In fact, I believe he had nothing to fear from them.

So, where does Trump cop his stash these days? How does he get his fixes?

Is it really possible that POTUS is a drug abuser? And everyone in his orbit is covering for him. Wow, talk about enabling!

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Is Trump snorting speed? (Original Post) PJMcK Dec 2018 OP

He's awfully fat to be using speed YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #1

That was my first thought, as well Ohiogal Dec 2018 #4

Imagine if he stops using speed. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #5

Good one! (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2018 #7

adderall is different than speed... Javaman Dec 2018 #10

I didn't know it was that different YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #11

neither did I, until someone pointed it out to me Javaman Dec 2018 #16

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, struggle4progress Dec 2018 #2

--sniff-- Ponietz Dec 2018 #3

Less difficult to hide than you think unc70 Dec 2018 #6

There is a doctor who posts on Twitter blugbox Dec 2018 #19

Explains the fine motor control problems Recursion Dec 2018 #8

Noticed the same. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #9

Diet pills Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #12

Where he gets his stash? His "golf" properties where he controls the entrances. UTUSN Dec 2018 #13

Maybe his doctor prescribes them. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #14

Exactly my point (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2018 #17

Sporting sneed? Mendocino Dec 2018 #15

Roger Stone claimed that Chief of Staff Gen John Kelly may be drugging Trump. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #18

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)

1. He's awfully fat to be using speed

Reply to PJMcK (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:25 PM

Dec 2018

Speed freaks are usually skinny

Ohiogal

(32,057 posts)

4. That was my first thought, as well

Reply to YessirAtsaFact (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:36 PM

Dec 2018

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,364 posts)

5. Imagine if he stops using speed.

Reply to YessirAtsaFact (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:43 PM

Dec 2018

He might go a bit heavier than 239 pounds.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)

7. Good one! (n/t)

Reply to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:01 PM

Dec 2018

Javaman

(62,534 posts)

10. adderall is different than speed...

Reply to YessirAtsaFact (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:43 PM

Dec 2018

I took a deep dive looking into this topic last year.

traditional speed slams into the brain pretty quickly.

Adderall is different from speed via two molecule groups.

those two different molecule groups slow down the blood brain barrier pass.

instead of getting that slammed high of speed/meth

your "high" is spread out over time.

time released

however, if you are an addict, you will need more and more after a while to get that same original high.

aka chasing the high.

do I believe the orange asshole a "speed freak", but using adderall instead?

no doubt in my mind.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)

11. I didn't know it was that different

Reply to Javaman (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:48 PM

Dec 2018

Javaman

(62,534 posts)

16. neither did I, until someone pointed it out to me

Reply to YessirAtsaFact (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:32 PM

Dec 2018

that's when I had to find out more.

struggle4progress

(118,335 posts)

2. "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely,

Reply to PJMcK (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:25 PM

Dec 2018

the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron"

H. L. Mencken

Ponietz

(3,004 posts)

3. --sniff--

Reply to PJMcK (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:28 PM

Dec 2018

[link:http://

Link to tweet

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unc70

(6,119 posts)

6. Less difficult to hide than you think

Reply to PJMcK (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:59 PM

Dec 2018

Assume for the moment that Trump has a legitimate Rx for Adderall, Ritalin, or a similar drug. He could easily divert some of his regular doses -- not take as directed and save for later for snorting. Easy enough to grind the typical pill to a powder, maybe using the pill bottle to crush the pill against a smooth hard surface. Little chance of being observed in the act, nothing incriminating lying around. This is a very common scenario that might raise suspicions but be hard to prove.

Trump's behavior at various times is certainly consistent with this. He has a number of tells that strongly suggest he has snorted stimulants.

blugbox

(951 posts)

19. There is a doctor who posts on Twitter

Reply to unc70 (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:13 AM

Dec 2018

He has extremely long threads showing how trumps pupils are often extremely dilated when they should not be.

Basically he rules out almost everything except drug use that would cause it. Very good read.