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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:42 PM Aug 2012

Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Shot

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/17/pizza-franchise-creates-not-after-dark-delivery-rule-in-detroit-after-driver-shot/

Has it come to this? Yes it has, according to Joan McKenna, whose son Tim McKenna, 19, was shot while delivering pizza in Detroit.

In the wake of the shooting, a Jets Pizza franchise in Dearborn ruled it will no longer deliver to Detroit after dark. Before the shooting, they sent two drivers to every nighttime Detroit delivery, one of whom was armed, Joan McKenna said.

“They usually send somebody with a guy … who carries a gun,” she said. “Usually they have two go into Detroit after dark, if they have a delivery … One guy has a legal, he can carry a gun. That night, Timmy was the only one left, they had this one run to do, he said ‘yeah, I’ll do it.’ He’s a kid, he doesn’t think anything’s going to happen to him.”

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Mike, a U.S. Post Office manager, said he had a part-time carrier who moonlighted in that area as a pizza delivery man, and he was also attacked. “The guy jumped out of the bushes and basically attacked him, pulled out a gun … It’s very dangerous over there. I’m black, I’m from the city, but that’s the highest crime area I staffed. I can’t blame the pizza owner for doing that. He has to look at those employees every day.”

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Jobs NOW! Like Keynes said, even if it digging a hole, filling it in, and digging it out the next day. No one in Detroit should be so poor that they have to rob delivery drivers for pocket change.
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HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
1. Pizza and taxi drivers in Harrisburg are regularly mugged. They won't touch Allison Hill at night.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:35 PM
Aug 2012

It's a really sad situation, but it's a reality. Yes, the prospect of jail is a minimal deterrent in some areas. It's a sad situation.

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
2. poverty isn't a defense for shooting someone
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:44 PM
Aug 2012

you steal some bread from the market because you're hungry, okay, that's understandable.

You hold up a pizza guy and shoot him because you're poor? Sorry, that's not excusable, no matter how bad your situation is.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
3. You've hit on something here, I'm not sure if you knew it.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:04 PM
Aug 2012

These kinds of crimes are common and while I share the OPs desire for more jobs, these crimes have nothing to do with employment; their rate and frequency do not typically fall in improving economies or higher employment periods.

People who commit crimes of sustenance typically commit the least-minor crime that will provide means. You don't mug and shoot the pizza guy because you don't have a job...at least, that's not the greatest of your problems.

People who commit more egregious crimes of these sorts typically have other motivations or are among the genuinely stricken: severely-disturbed individuals, the mentally-ill, drug addicts desperate for a fix. Frequently, they're also part of initiation rites...there was a street gang back in Hartford when I was growing up, part of their initiation was you had to rob a store and shoot the clerk...that way, you were in for life. If you tried to leave the gang, they had evidence on you of your crimes.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
7. the higher and more long-lived poverty is, the more drug addiction, gangs, and other pathologies
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:08 PM
Aug 2012

rise.

one way or another, institutionalized poverty/lack of jobs/economic instability is the root cause.

why would you expect people to be kind & follow the rules when kindness has not been practiced toward them and the rules have left them outsiders?

if you haven't experienced being in the mainstream & then seen how things change once you're outside it, you may not understand.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. "No one in Detroit should be so poor that they have to rob delivery drivers for pocket change."
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

Pieces of shit robbing hard working people who are barely making ends meet.

Just wanted to fix that sentence for you.

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