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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:48 AM Dec 2018

General Flynn and the moment of despair for the country.

It was the moment.

When we learned that General Flynn had been secretly negotiating with the Russians. He was the newly appointed National Security Advisor. It was a moment of national panic. We wondered how much he had given the Russians?

Sally Yates went to the White House to tell them that General Flynn may be compromised. We expected he would be gone in short order.

But, it was not to be. The White House kept him in his position, receiving the most top secret information of our country, for almost another 3 weeks. Trump said that he had full faith in him.

That was a moment of despair. We knew we were in deep trouble.

Now today, General Flynn is bad-mouthing the FBI for accusing him of lying. In hindsight, it seems he should have been imprisoned at the very moment he betrayed our country.

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General Flynn and the moment of despair for the country. (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2018 OP
Imprison the whole admin. Nothing but gangsters. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #1
Hateful self serving conspiracy theorists populistdriven Dec 2018 #2
Traitors spike91nz Dec 2018 #3
It will be interesting to read about Flynn's sentencing PJMcK Dec 2018 #4
I believe is was the judge who ordered saljr1 Dec 2018 #9
I feel the same way - why are they still running the country after all we know now? Rhiannon12866 Dec 2018 #5
I hope the judge disagrees with Mueller and locks him up. Vinca Dec 2018 #6
Or shot rickyhall Dec 2018 #7
I've been thinking about this lately. watoos Dec 2018 #8
Excellent post, with gusto. However I think some repugs are consciously conniving erronis Dec 2018 #10
A few nights ago, PART of the answer occurred to me slumcamper Dec 2018 #13
What's the Matter With Kansas? trev Dec 2018 #17
I agree duforsure Dec 2018 #11
I believe Michael Flynn is mentally ill. nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #12
And it's hereditary. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #16
Power and Money TxVietVet Dec 2018 #14
Yes. trev Dec 2018 #18
I have a problem with criminals still being referred to by their military title. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #15
I thought about that also... kentuck Dec 2018 #19
They still refer to him as general on tv. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #20
Well, he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. kentuck Dec 2018 #21
Admit it DUers, Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #22

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
4. It will be interesting to read about Flynn's sentencing
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 07:57 AM
Dec 2018

Will the sentencing judge let Flynn off without jail? The lawyers' attempted to muddy the waters by claiming Flynn wasn't warned that lying to the FBI is a crime. Will that late-hour claim anger the judge? Will the prosecutors change their recommendation?

In spite of his assistance, Flynn is a criminal and a traitor. He deserves punishment.

saljr1

(273 posts)
9. I believe is was the judge who ordered
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:35 AM
Dec 2018

The Special Counsel to release the 302 ( notes on Flynn interview ) yesterday to prove that Flynn was not set up to lie. I'm real interested in the judge's comments before sentencing. If I was the judge I would give him a 30 day sentence even though the government recommended no time just because of his dishonesty in his lawyers brief to the judge.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
5. I feel the same way - why are they still running the country after all we know now?
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:01 AM
Dec 2018

We keep hearing more about the damage they've already done and it gets demonstratively worse every single day - and that's just what we've learned so far. And we know that there's much worse to come.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
6. I hope the judge disagrees with Mueller and locks him up.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:08 AM
Dec 2018

Can you imagine what Flynn must have served up to get Mueller to recommend no jail time??? Don on a platter???

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. I've been thinking about this lately.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:19 AM
Dec 2018

Why do Republicans vote against their own best interests? I've come to the conclusion that Republican politicians with a big helping hand from the right wing corporate controlled M$M, including AM radio have demonized Democrats. Democrats are less than human, are lazy, are the ones on welfare mooching off of hard working Republicans. Democrats are baby killers are not patriotic are to be scorned. Republicans vote against Democrats, period.

Republicans vote for a car thief, Darrell Issa, over any Democrat. Republicans vote for a man who stole millions of dollars from Medicare, Rick Scott, voted him governor, voted him Senator against any Democrat, Republicans voted for a man who deserted from the National Guard, George Bush, Republicans came within a whisker of voting for an alleged child molester, Roy Moore. Finally, Republicans voted for draft dodging, crooked, money grubbing, self proclaimed sexual assaulter, accused rapist, idiot, Donald Trump.

Republicans don't care that people in the Trump administration have been colluding with Russia, don't care that the GOP has been taking foreign money from Russia, UAE, Saudi Arabia. Republicans don't care that Russia has used a massive smear campaign on social media against Democrats. Senator Orin Hatch let the cat out of the bag when being questioned about the corruption that was being uncovered. He first said that it was just angry Democrats trying to dig up dirt on Republicans. When he was told that the charges were being filed by Trump's own justice department, Hatch responded, "I don't care."

They all don't care people, Orin Hatch told the truth. Democrats are all bad, subhuman, any Republican is better, even a traitor to our country. Have you seen the tee shirts they are wearing? Rather be Russian than Democrat, or something to that effect. Even if Mueller and other state prosecutors indict more people, come out with evidence that the Trump administration is full of criminals and traitors, as Orin Hatch said, it doesn't matter.

In the words of Auntie Maxine, Trump deserves to be impeached, if the Senate Republicans want to protect a traitorous, sexually perverse, criminal, so be it. It is the Constitutional duty of Democrats to impeach Donald Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors.

erronis

(15,302 posts)
10. Excellent post, with gusto. However I think some repugs are consciously conniving
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:59 AM
Dec 2018

and are doing it for their own self-interest ($$$/?) or self-preservation (kompromat?). Some of them will probably say "some of my best friends are Democrats" altho I couldn't see how that would be reciprocated.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
13. A few nights ago, PART of the answer occurred to me
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:45 AM
Dec 2018

They don't know any better They are ignorant, and especially deficient in social and emotional intelligence.

They make and laugh uproariously at off-color jokes about race, religion, orientation, etc.
They operate on the basis of stereotypes, having no real experience with people different.
They ridicule the poorest of the poor, the weakest, the most downtrodden, even ridicule empathy itself!
They are defensive and prone to resorting to conflict or violence when upset by or fearing something.

The list could go on. This is their character. In short, they are primitive, most certainly knuckle draggers.

trev

(1,480 posts)
17. What's the Matter With Kansas?
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 07:28 PM
Dec 2018

The GOP has been a criminal organization since at least the Nixon era. I say this as someone who lived through the Nixon era.

The Republican Party for 45 years has been nothing but a power-hungry, democracy-be-damned organization. Eisenhower--a Republican--warned us of this with his "military-industrial complex" speech. War and business are the true focus of the GOP, the sole recipients of Republican beneficence. Republicans worship money. Democrats worship freedom.

The only true answer to today's situation is to take the Republican Party out of power forever.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. I agree
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:00 AM
Dec 2018

But I think they have a lot more on him and his son if he does anything like Manafort did, and he'll pay dearly down the road for it. trump knew all along what Flynn was up to, and selling policies and influence for trump to profit from with Flynn's help. Flynn was committing acts of treason against this country with trumps blessings, and he could face even worse charges if he's not careful.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
14. Power and Money
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:55 AM
Dec 2018

are what drive the conservanazis. They don't care about democracy.
Power and profit is what drives them. They will use anyone or anything to achieve those goals. Even the enemies of the state.

LiberalFighter

(50,945 posts)
15. I have a problem with criminals still being referred to by their military title.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:54 PM
Dec 2018

They should lose that right.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
19. I thought about that also...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 07:57 PM
Dec 2018

..but, for clarification and understanding, it seemed appropriate for the post to refer to General Flynn. How far the mighty have fallen...

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
22. Admit it DUers,
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:05 AM
Dec 2018

We always knew Sally Yates would be vindicated. She saw right through Flynn. She took her concerns to the WH and what happened ? They forced HER out. That's when I knew we were in serious trouble.

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