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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI saw something yesterday that really bothered me.
We had to buy a car to replace mine that had over 150000 miles and was not running very well. We went to a local Oklahoma dealer and had a great experience. The young man who helped with the financing was a young Muslim man. We loved him, he was wonderful. The couple waiting after us started to go in and I heard them say "do we have to deal with a dirty Muslim". I turned to them and said no, you can go to a local bank and get 2 percent higher. Give it a go, but don't treat him like crap ok? They glared at me but went on in his office. What a bunch of morons I live with here in OK.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I gather you were making some sort of an assumption on the basis of his name, accent, or something else? If so, what?
How do you know the religion of people with whom you are doing business?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)My husband told him it must be difficult dealing with the public here and he said "I do my best".
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)We shared that our best friends were from Iraq and he opened up.
Moebym
(989 posts)That she was assuming he was Muslim? Also, aren't you missing the point?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Generally speaking, if one is asking a question, one is seeking an answer. I was curious to know how one would know the religion of someone with whom one is doing business. I do business with a lot of people around the world, and the subject doesnt often come up.
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Marengo
(3,477 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)The ignorant couple who said they didn't want to deal with a Muslem assumed he was a Muslim based on something. For all they knew he could be a Lebonese Christian. It's a stupid and prejudiced assumption to make
dlk
(11,569 posts)Ohiogal
(32,006 posts)woofless
(2,670 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)sigh
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)people. Anybody ever read about Greenwood?
My wife's family has lived in Wagoner since the beginning of time. All her Aunts (5) have been diehard Dems ever since
I met them. Last one died a coupe of years ago at the ripe old age of 93. I got along great with all of them. And they were church-going
ladies, but certainly no Prudes...that's what I mostly liked about them
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)moderate in teaching
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Moderates in terms of religion are few and far between.
StarryNite
(9,446 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)True Dough
(17,305 posts)regardless of nationality. Judge others based on their words and actions, not the way they look.
How can that not be understood by all in 2018? Glad you gave those morons a verbal slap, redstatebluegirl!
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)apkhgp
(1,068 posts)Opinionated and will always let people know about it. No matter how idiotic they are.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)spicysista
(1,663 posts)Many people still haven't realized that inaction is still an action. Thank you for standing up! You rock!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)but it goes something like: All that it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to remain silent.
TwistOneUp
(1,020 posts)Allegedly, Burke once said: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.
The quote is a subject of controversy. See here.
Otoh, the many variations all seem to be true, imho.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)Nevertheless, the sentiment is correct.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)a thing or two from you.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Dealing with this shit everyday gets tiresome.
Cha
(297,307 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)In my local community group, some of the posters were discussing whether a closed convenience store would be re-opening, and who might open it up again. Someone then posted "well, if it's a foreigner who opens it, we shouldn't go there. Besides, they send their money out of the country, anyway." But mainly it was the refusal to do business with a "foreigner" that was her point.
In our area, most of the foreigners are Middle Easterners who speak with an accent, like Pakistanis. Some wear turbans. More than a few open convenience stores and hire other Middle Easterners to work in them. So I'm pretty sure these are the so-called foreigners she is referring to. We have a few first generation Hispanics, but they generally do manual labor.
My stepmother, who is elderly, got a gun a few years ago, to protect herself against a home invasion by Muslims or A-rabs, she said.
I'm in Louisiana, so I assume the environment is similar to that of Oklahoma, as far as bigotry against so-called foreigners or Muslims, or those who are perceived as such by the redneck whites. Most are leery of who they think are foreigners or Muslims, but don't outright insult them or refuse to frequent their stores. But some feel free to do so.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I'm glad you said something. It probably didn't change their minds one little bit, but at least they know not everyone lives in their closed minded world.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)I used to live in East Texas, the belt buckle of the Bible belt, and encountered more than few of such comments.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)You say clearly middle eastern.
How many Americans can tell apart someone from India or Pakistan from an Iranian? An Iraqi?
Cool story.
Initech
(100,080 posts)They just can't help themselves.
Runningdawg
(4,520 posts)don't really get it. A week ago I was on a rare trip to wal-mart. The line for the only human cashier was long, but I don't do bots. Up rolls 2 Trumpers in their motorized carts, complete with MAGA hats. The man had on a Hillary for Prison T-shirt. The whole time we wait, these 2 complain to each other LOUDLY about every issue they could think of. In between subjects they complained about the speed of the cashier, but conceded, at least he was white. They complained that no one offered 2 obviously handicapped people in line their spot and that the liberals wanted all handicapped/conservative/God-fearing patriots dead. They complained the line was slow because of all the people trying to by beer with food stamps.
By the time I got near the cashier I could see him rolling his eyes. Then he did the unexpected. He picked up his courtesy phone and told his manager, he was in need of an emergency bathroom break. Right away a new cashier arrived to take his place. The new cashier is best described as gender-fluid. Well that was THE. LAST. STRAW.
I am not even going to attempt to describe the level of hate that consumed these two. But they certainly had the attention of most everyone in the front of the store, including the manager and security guard.
Then (praise Jesus!) a miracle happened. They got up out of their carts, left their food and walked out the door!!!
The cashier never lost her smile, never even slowed down. Kudos to Walmart for hiring her and bravo for her grace under pressure.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)The stories I read here...
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Runningdawg
(4,520 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)this is very familiar. They are not shy about their hate down here, and then they all head to the Baptist Church on Sunday. Makes me nuts.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)would make him puke.
Are you saying rather than check out with the replaced cashier they abandoned their order instead after shopping and waiting in line?
If so , who does that inconvenience??
Stupid and deplorable
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)of the alleged "goobs" ...and as asked above..how did you know.."was a young Muslim man"?
An assumption?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)He told us during our conversation, when he realized we were friendly, that he and his wife had had some issues since coming to OKC due to their religion. Also, his prayer rug was rolled up in the corner of his office. But next time I will ask for a picture for you.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Riding scooters, with a Hillary for prison T-shirt, who supposedly thought people can buy beer with food stamps.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Easy enough to find, I would think.
tiptonic
(765 posts)That brings back memories, of my 6 yrs of living north of Dallas. Not far from the OK border. I was transferred there for work. We were counting the days, until we could leave. Just the willful, ignorance and arrogance, was sometimes over whelming.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Silence Equals Complicity
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)going for myself (mentally, emotionally, and intellectually).