We'll see how things go when the whole pool of candidates is out there and people get to know their options.

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before because he was competing with the right for white populist voters and it would have driven those away.

What happened is easier to understand in retrospect on realizing that we've had two populist movements, one on the right and one on the left. Large portions of populists are various mixtures of socially conservative and economically progressive and trend left or right depending on which passions are stronger at any particular time.

Though Sanders' economic populism drew some, we now know, for instance, that those famous white working class male Democrats who chose Trump's nationalist populism did so because they'd OD'd on equality. Their biggest populist resentment was that they were losing their white male privileges. Focused against women definitely, but especially against POC.

A lot of us didn't really understand why Sanders wasn't committing to address the issues POC required to support him. That said, we know Russia was and is trying hard to split as many POC off as possible, just as they did those white male supremacists to Trump, and/or to Sanders.

nuff said.

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From https://www.shethepeople.org/poll

to having a problem with the majority of Democratic voters? First of all, not being in the first 3 choices does not mean you would not support. (For instance, if I would have been asked in 1991 -- my top three would have been Cuomo (who was the "front runner before he didn't run, Tsongus and Brown .. and I also liked Harkin.) Does that mean I would not support Kerrey or Clinton in the general election? Absolutely not.

That said, I have posted for months that I think Bernie is highly unlikely to get the percent of delegates that he got last time. For almost the entire country, by primary time, there was a very constrained choice -- HRC or Bernie. I would bet that many voting for each were excited by their vote .. and a lot of the others were simply voting for the one they liked better than the other, but who were not excited. I seriously doubt that Bernie will win the nomination.

These polls now are way to early -- not to mention, this is not based on a random sample of POC women. The organization, She the People, did a STRAW POLL of their members. First, their members are self selected and may not be representative of all POC women. In addition, this is a straw poll and straw polls are not scientific samples.

From their link:
She the People — a national network of influential women of color in politics — just completed a national straw poll of 264 women of color leaders, campaign workers and managers, political strategists, organizers, and activists ahead of the 2020 presidential election. Those surveyed included campaign donors (48.5%), current and former elected officials (10.6%), campaign managers (5.7%), electoral campaign strategists (8.7%), and women who run (23.1%) or work (23.5%) at politically-minded organizations.

Of the women of color surveyed, nearly 40% identify as Latinx, and nearly 50% identify as African American, over 16% identify as Asian, and over 5% as Native. Nearly 90% of respondents identified as members of the Democratic Party.

who goes there had it gone black once again, and my words met with only silence.


I appreciate your drive-by responses as much as the next person, but unless you're going to engage, I'm going to return the favor.

There is no way in hell I'd ever vote for him the primaries.

Both have fewer people than the D of C.

We need a 1.5 million population floor on states and a 10 million population max.

so there is a lot to change in that regard if it actually needs to change. (I don't think it needs to change, for the record).

Easily enough to convene a CC and amend.

edited: I included PR - which damn well should be a state.

Also, I'd consider exempting Alaska.

I just clicked the link in the OP and here's what it shows for the latest polling period:

And, he's 3rd party.

This is a Democratic Board.. I know I don't have to tell you that.

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I predict an early exit this time around.

Tiptoeing carefully here . . .

And on a completely unrelated note happy holiday!

Mele Kalikimaka!

Blue Wave! Dems!

it doesn't appear to filter through the endless rah-rah posts for BS, a non-Democrat, a coat-tail Dem at best who will never be our nominee.

This ain't a replay of 2016. We've all been down that twisty, unpaved road before. Been there, saw that, not going to happen again.

But as a distraction from the woes and tribulations of Trumpski and Co., the absolute debacle that was 2016, these endless, pointless polls serve a purpose: divide and conquer.

Again, ain't going to happen.

down that rocky road to hell. And, we're just coming out of it with Robert Mueller and the Democratic Blue Wave.

Turns out Not to be true as BS & MM stated "Russia investigation is a distraction".

Thank Goodness for our Blue Dems like Adam Schiff and all those who Persisted!

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how Russia worked to undermine our Democratic candidate's esteem among African Americans despite decades of good work and goodwill -- and of course, continuing criticism for winning the nomination by campaigning for votes among black people in the south, which 'doesn't count' in the general, rather than focusing on white folks up north, the only winning strategy...

I think I need to hibernate through the primaries this time.

favorability overall? Biden beats Sanders in favorability as a large result of white voters impacting the data, if I remember what I read earlier. What is the sampling error you are referring to in this case? Okay, so maybe Biden and Sanders are in the same ballpark. It still really fucks with the mythology that Sanders is only liked by white male Bernie Bros.

It's on pp. 15-16 of the link I gave. And that is a very thin reed indeed.

and not just one who chooses to caucus with the Democratic Party because his only other choice is to caucus with the Republicans,
or one who just uses the Democratic Party to run for president because he knows there is no other way to win the presidency.

We will have a good number of qualified and actual members of the Democratic Party who will be candidates for its nomination,
I'll be satisfied with them.

which is the 'Democratic' (adjective) Party.

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and he is not a member of the Democratic Party.

It's a name recognition poll being used as something else.

This poll in the op actually gives additional information that is useful(some of it has no use). The manner in which it was taken to put this piece together makes it a clear propaganda piece.

At a minimum the 44/42 shows polarization.

It establishes nothing as you think it does. That is also not the only flaw in your statistical analysis.

No Independents, no pretend, temporary Democrats.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

What it’s history is based on and why it’s still used even today.

Elizabeth Warren
Cory Booker
Kamala Harris

Well THAT says a lot about those most voters...