That's how evil he is. He'd sell her into slavery before he'd admit that Medicare is a cost-effective program that saves seniors (and disabled folk) from dying from disease.

It's to cut Medicare expenses so that money can be given to the 1%. It's not about anything else. As soon as we all get it his plan will be exposed for what it is. President Obama is saying this. Ryan's plan is not to save money. It's to redistribute that money upwards. This is what makes him so monstrous.

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he has no soul

That's what that piece of crap is doing.

just as she is entitled to do. This is actually a good thing for Paul Ryan as well as his mother, because if she becomes seriously ill and needs a lot of very expensive medical care for many years - as so often happens to elderly people - Medicare will pick up the tab for most of it, leaving even more money in her estate for him to inherit.

Of course, the Ryan plan would not affect people who are already over 55, so neither Paul nor Ma need to worry. So Medicare as it currently exists is a good thing for the 1%, not just us peons. Wonder if they've thought of that angle?

And, don't get me wrong. I have no issue with people using their Medicare benefit, but maybe it's the old hippie in me, because I only use what I need. If I was so weathy I could afford to buy private insurance, I'd probably opt out of Medicare. Same with SS benefits. Why use what you don't need, when that money can go to those who actually NEED it???

He'll be sure he is taken care of, no matter what the changes are.

How many times does he have to lie before someone calls him a liar?

Besides, people my age and upwards supposedly don't have to worry. Evidently he thinks it's OK with us if slightly younger people get cut off as long as we get ours.

I was just gobsmacked when I heard that statement on a newsbreak.

Either he's an asshole, or she's stupid. Or both.

During his speech at the sprawling retirement community northwest of Orlando, Ryan said his mother, Betty Douglas, has depended on the government program for more than 10 years. It was promised to her and millions of today's seniors, and it won't go away for now.

Think both of your conclusions are correct.

That's supposed to be the tea bagger ideal, right? Families take care of their own and the government should butt out.

That's how rich people think.

The family was well off when his father died when he was a teenager, too, but nobody's libertarian principles kept teenaged Ryan from drawing social security either. He's stated he didn't use it, but banked it for college. With the family money, there's no way he was dependent on that small amount in order to go to school.

I truly don't begrudge people from using those benefits but taking it and then trying to deny it to people with real need is so hypocritical.

Yes, rich people are SUPPOSED to use government's money. That's why Mitt says he wouldn't be qualified to be president if he paid a nickel more than required. The government is supposed to get the difference from the peons.

Not using it would require declining the survivor's benefit.

SS survivor benefits since 1986?

And he wants to cut them too?

If they have minor children, it's actually the kids that get the SS survivor benefits.

Dad died at age 47. Maybe it's because he was a vet, I don't know, but I do know that she started getting the checks well before she turned 68. She hadn't even turned 48.

deceased husband's. If the benefits start at an earlier age, they are reduced a fraction of a percent for each month before full retirement age.

If the survivor has their own SS, they can switch to that between ages 62 and 70, if those benefits would be more.

If Dems let him get by on saying he wants to cut the deficit.

Voters never think cutting spending will effect programs they like.

There are so many issues where they can be attached. IMHO, none should be ruled out or eased up upon.

He's using it to fund tax cuts for billionaires. He's INCREASING THE DEFICIT.

It would be really helpful if you stopped repeating Republican lies.

I said we can't keep letting him push an image of being a deficit hawk.

I realize he isn't a deficit hawk.

nothing to run on. Is he disavowing his plan?

why doesn't he help out his mom?

in this case money, they just don't appreciate it, no, it's much better character building to suffer a little, maybe she'll get off her arse and learn how to earn for herself...

They will however pay for catheters and other external urinary collection devices for patients who have permanent urinary incontinence or permanent urinary retention.

Some States will provide adult diapers, but for some of us who've had loved ones in a nursing home who's on Medicare, it's one of the many expenses family needs to cover.

I know you were making a funny....sorry to be so serious.

If I ever get there I'll make fun of myself. Life can be too sad not to have fun at times. We should have health care for all. No one should suffer pain or humiliation because they are sick.

But McCain and Ryan ... no problem ...