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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think the continued existence of the Electoral College is the fault of DEMOCRATS?
Do you think they are to blame for not ending it when Al Gore failed to be seated as President?
Do you think they failed again when HRC with 3 million more votes, was not seated?
I do not.
Some people do.
How about you?
BootinUp
(47,157 posts)still_one
(92,213 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)Have they ever thought that, hey, it might be the repugs they should be going after?
still_one
(92,213 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)still_one
(92,213 posts)gone for it, and Congress didn't have the votes
PhrankT
(113 posts)The Supreme Court chose Bush over Gore.
Hassler
(3,379 posts)kimbutgar
(21,155 posts)The confederates control the country though the repuke party now. Only they can change this and it is slim and none as to happening.
I see states seceding instead. Sadly, orange maggot destroyed America like his casinos, bankruptcy is our future. Todays events made me more pessimistic. more than ever.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Hekate
(90,708 posts)...out of districts in this country. I blame them. Them and the conservative Supremes who voted for Citizens United and voted to gut the Voting Rights Act.
The Electoral College has GOT to go -- it has utterly, utterly failed us -- and it will not go until there is a critical mass of voters and elected officeholders who get it and are willing to stick their necks out.
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)Yes, we can still win with the EC in place, but we must abolish it now before it's too late.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)And so here we are. We shouldn't have just talked about it right after losing, but persistently as an issue we are passionate about fixing.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)deserved to be fined? Do you believe that is what the founding fathers had in mind when they created this method of indirect voting?
I do not.
And this goes to prove your point that the electoral college is outdated and is under pressure from the right to vote against their will, to serve as the founding fathers imagined it should.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)mvymvy
(309 posts)Now we need to urge state legislators, in states with the 98 more electoral votes needed, to enact the National Popular Vote bill, to be in effect for the 2020 presidential election.
There have been hundreds of unsuccessful proposed amendments to modify or abolish the Electoral College - more than any other subject of Constitutional reform.
To abolish the Electoral College would need a constitutional amendment, and could be stopped by states with as little as 3% of the U.S. population.
Instead, state legislation, The National Popular Vote bill is 64% of the way to guaranteeing the majority of Electoral College votes and the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country, by changing state winner-take-all laws (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but later enacted by 48 states), without changing anything in the Constitution, using the built-in method that the Constitution provides for states to make changes.
It simply requires enacting states with 270 electoral votes to award them according to the nationwide, rather than the statewide, popular vote.
All voters would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where they live.
Candidates, as in other elections, would allocate their time, money, polling, organizing, and ad buys roughly in proportion to the population
Every vote, everywhere, for every candidate, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election.
No more distorting, crude, and divisive and red and blue state maps of predictable outcomes, that dont represent any minority party voters within each state.
No more handful of 'battleground' states (where the two major political parties happen to have similar levels of support) where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 38+ predictable winner states that have just been 'spectators' and ignored after the conventions.
We can limit the power and influence of a few battleground states in order to better serve our nation.
The bill would take effect when enacted by states with a majority of the electoral votes270 of 538.
All of the presidential electors from the enacting states will be supporters of the presidential candidate receiving the most popular votes among all 50 states (and DC)thereby guaranteeing that candidate with an Electoral College majority.
The bill was approved in 2016 by a unanimous bipartisan House committee vote in both Georgia (16 electoral votes) and Missouri (10).
Since 2006, the bill has passed 36 state legislative chambers in 23 rural, small, medium, large, red, blue, and purple states with 261 electoral votes.
The bill has been enacted by 12 small, medium, and large jurisdictions with 172 electoral votes 64% of the way to guaranteeing the Electoral College and the presidency to the candidate with the most popular votes in the country
NationalPopularVote
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I left it in the refrigerator too long. Thanks a lot, Pres. Carter...