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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this foot dragging, a display of power, or do Castor et al have a better plan or idea?
Why derail, or at least sidetrack, a train with momentum? Some combining, some time devoted to a discussion about inclusion, some public recognition of worthyness. What?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kathy-castor-climate_us_5c1c0843e4b08aaf7a869cfd
still_one
(92,216 posts)The talking point that anyone who has received political donations from big oil should not be eligible is bullshit
It is like me saying that if someone embraced someone like the Susan Sarandon's or Cornell West's, who not only refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, but encouraged others to follow suit, I would not support that person...
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Here are some of Representative Castor's voting record:
Voted NO on opening Outer Continental Shelf to oil drilling. (May 2011)
Voted NO on barring EPA from regulating greenhouse gases. (Apr 2011)
Voted YES on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009)
Voted YES on tax credits for renewable electricity, with PAYGO offsets. (Sep 2008)
Voted YES on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008)
Voted YES on investing in homegrown biofuel. (Aug 2007)
Voted YES on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. (May 2007)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007)
50% clean and carbon free electricity by 2030. (Mar 2016)
Magoo48
(4,712 posts)but upon the past actions of their originators and supporters? Have I misunderstood?
still_one
(92,216 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts).
still_one
(92,216 posts)it will be an uphill battle
George II
(67,782 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)More to come soon, I'm sure . . .
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Castor herself told E&E News that her position on the committee was not "official" and that the mission and shape of the committee was still being formed. She is also not inflexible in her positions on fossil fuel money. When pushed by the Huffington Post, she said her freedom-of-speech comment was "inartful" but that she did not know if she would have the power as chairwoman to block potential members based on the donations they accepted and that it was an issue that could be discussed in caucus. She did say she would consider pledging to refuse future fossil fuel donations.
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https://www.ecowatch.com/green-new-deal-democrats-2624030908.html
George II
(67,782 posts)...they'll be considered by experienced legislators in their proper context and pursued methodically and properly, not emotionally.
Magoo48
(4,712 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and energy committee when Nancy was speaker before, and the Republicans shut it down when the voters in their wisdom put them in power. Imo, it is neither honest nor productive to portray that as Democratic plodding.
You say shouldn't good ideas be considered on their merit? Please do so. And also please realize that the real Green New Deal focusing on fighting climate change and disappearing fresh water originated in the Obama era and has been taken up by the U.N.
Also that this version includes such wonderful ideas as banishing poverty forever (gotta have a Democratic committee for that one!), a universal basic income, a new national bank, and various other things on these radical groups' unworkable wish list that they KNEW could and never would be adopted as a giant committee to take over the job of many others. It's merely a symbolic platform, Magoo. They knew the Democrats were reactivating the special climate committee and that it would be chaired by a member with environmental expertise. They expected and intended our congressional Democrats to be unable to make a committee for it, and that is in order to claim Democrats are against what it contains.
Now, with the Republicans determined to stop and roll back all environmental protections and seriously threatening to destroy our democracy, and with it progressivism in government altogether, I don't see any merit at all in giving them aid and comfort by fighting us. Those who genuinely WISH to oppose evil need to first recognize that we are not it.
George II
(67,782 posts)WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)We should be happy that this panel is being revived. It's a really good thing. Yet it's being covered as a negative.
Using the name of someone who hasn't served a day in congress as a way to turn this into a negative. Sad.
Magoo48
(4,712 posts)WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Not sure why you think the media using Cortez like this to turn it into a negative, is a positive. Being inclusive and respectful of new ideas does not mean all of those ideas are simply and immediately implemented. Awful the way this is being spun as negative.
George II
(67,782 posts)Let's not jump to conclusions. The new Congress hasn't even been seated yet and none of the committee assignments have been publicly finalized.
I'm waiting for January 4 and beyond.