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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:39 AM Dec 2018

It is Time to Ask---How Does the Border Wall Make Trump Inc. Money?

Trump is absolutely fixated on this border wall. From day one, every other word out of his mouth has been "border-wall". No matter what topic is being discussed, he will try to interject "border-wall." He eats, sleeps and breathes "border-wall."

It is obvious that he has a lot invested in "border-wall." This from a man who has only ever cared about one thing---money. So, how does "border-wall" make Trump money?

At first, I thought it was just for the pork. You know. Some big campaign donor gave him a million dollars in exchange for the promise of a multi-billion dollar "border-wall" contract. But if that was what was going on here, Trump could give the contractor some other infrastructure job--like carving MAGA hats on the faces on Mount Rushmore or applying gold leaf to the Grand Canyon or even building a road that might actually prove useful.

No, this is a lot more than a protein starved builder in need of pork. There is something about the "border-wall" itself that will make Trump a whole lot of money. But what is it?

Let's look more closely at "border-wall." At first glance, this appears to be fairly normal case of a "bridge to nowhere". However, the "border-wall" is a lot more than just a big pile of bricks. "Border-wall" will also be a big land grab. Thousands of miles of prime water front real estate along the Rio Grand will be snatched up by the federal government. Access to this mile wide stretch of river front property will be restricted--there will be an f-ing big wall to the north of it. Hmmm. A mile of river front property under the control of Donald Trump. What could a wily investor do with that?

If he was Donald Trump, he could build hotels. And casinos. Every one with a view of the river. His pal Sheldon Adelson could build some, too. All the mobster/casino moguls could get in on the act. Forget Las Vegas. Vegas is on a desert. It has no water. And water is the gold of the 21st century. The New Trump Rio Casinos would have plenty of water for their fountains.

What else could a savvy businessman do with all that river front real estate? DOW Chemical, one of Trump's biggest financial supporters always needs more free water. For its chemical plants. And with its newest plants situated south of the border on federal no-man-land, DOW could easily contract with the US government for cheap immigrant labor. Or even cheap prison labor. Men and women arrested by ICE could be sent to work for Dow while waiting for their federal court hearings---in a five or six years.

Who else might be willing to pay Donald Trump a large sum of money for all that water? Who is trying to get exclusive rights to the world's water? Nestle. Nestle would love that water. But someone else would love that water even more. Someone who sits on a throne in a filthy rich part of the world that has plenty of oil but very little potable water. The Saudi Prince, Trump's other lord and master after Putin. If I were the Saudi Prince, I would be absolutely in love with the possibility of buying up an entire mile of river front land in the sunny south of Texas. With a f-ing big "border-wall" to my north to keep out the peasants while me and my insanely rich kids wine, dine, jet ski and party like its 1999.

Hmmm. So many ways that Trump can make money from a "border-wall." No wonder he is like a dog with a bone. Look out, Texas! The man you propelled into the White House is about to steal one of your coasts.

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It is Time to Ask---How Does the Border Wall Make Trump Inc. Money? (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 OP
I think that's an excellent question Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #1
For one thing it helps him to keep squatting in the White House violating emoluments ooky Dec 2018 #2
I think that's right TimeToGo Dec 2018 #14
He's building the wall 2 miles inland, ceding the Rio Grande to Mexico. secondwind Dec 2018 #3
The Border Wall will not be the geographic border with Mexico. haele Dec 2018 #20
In one area where they have the fence, it cut through a few citrus groves LeftInTX Dec 2018 #37
The other questions, partly addressed above... 2naSalit Dec 2018 #4
Food for thought. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2018 #5
Chris coons described it as a $5 B fund with little government oversight lostnfound Dec 2018 #6
Who will get the contracts? pandr32 Dec 2018 #18
You hit the nail on the head. Lonestarblue Dec 2018 #22
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #29
Ha. I should have read all the replies before posting below. CrispyQ Dec 2018 #38
I don't doubt that he sees an angle, BaileyBill Dec 2018 #7
Look to his donors superpatriotman Dec 2018 #8
It might work quite well at keeping people in the U.S. and not allowing them to move south. LiberalArkie Dec 2018 #9
he often talks about a particular design of wall flyingfysh Dec 2018 #10
That was interesting too... Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #30
Concrete - Mafia, Steel - Russia. OnDoutside Dec 2018 #11
Good question, and I don't doubt that is one of the reasons Perseus Dec 2018 #12
There is another possibility, watoos Dec 2018 #13
The wall he wants is a wall of fear... LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #15
WAAAAAYYYYYY past time to be asking this question. debsy Dec 2018 #16
Strangely enough, not everything Trump focuses on is about money... brooklynite Dec 2018 #17
Correction: That's "Boarder" wall. He thinks it will be another of his shitty hotels. flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #19
I think it's just reelection. And maybe a legacy Hamlette Dec 2018 #21
Reminds me of the first(?) Christopher Reeves Superman movie... thesquanderer Dec 2018 #23
It's a memorial in his name dreamland Dec 2018 #24
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity." General George Patton. watoos Dec 2018 #32
It is a vanity project - his great pyramids Cosmocat Dec 2018 #25
Exactly. His own Ozymandias self-edification pile of shifting sand. Texin Dec 2018 #40
IFor a narcissist like him it would be his crowning legacy "Trumps wall" Dream Girl Dec 2018 #26
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2018 #27
It would just be a monument to Trump but everyone should follow the money... Bengus81 Dec 2018 #28
remember the movie "the money pit"? that. nt Javaman Dec 2018 #31
The Great Wall of China was a good idea for the 1st century. watoos Dec 2018 #33
The practical purposes of the wall beyond the political payoffs to Trump's base... Anon-C Dec 2018 #34
It will turn into a slush fund, & Trump loves his slush funds! CrispyQ Dec 2018 #35
The shore of the Rio Grande isn't prime vacation or hotel real estate, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #36
Perhaps there's a money aspect to it, but I believe he's just digging in his heels. Texin Dec 2018 #39
Kicking Sugar Smack Dec 2018 #41

Docreed2003

(16,861 posts)
1. I think that's an excellent question
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:41 AM
Dec 2018

What else could be the motivation for a man who's entire worldview is driven by the almighty dollar?

ooky

(8,923 posts)
2. For one thing it helps him to keep squatting in the White House violating emoluments
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:44 AM
Dec 2018

if he delivers it to his base.

haele

(12,659 posts)
20. The Border Wall will not be the geographic border with Mexico.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:40 AM
Dec 2018

It's restricting off a 2 mile corridor between the Rio Grand and where the wall will be built. Possibly due to typography, but I suspect the area that will be restricted is vernal wetlands and rangeland that can be used by government agencies or leased to businesses away from "prying public eyes". Because you know the general public or private citizens will no longer be able to access that area.

What do you think can be done with a two mile restricted corridor over hundred or couple hundred miles?

Haele

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
37. In one area where they have the fence, it cut through a few citrus groves
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:14 PM
Dec 2018

The farmers still have part of their groves on the other side of the fence.

They somehow get outside the fence to do their work.

In one case a woman's house ended up on the wrong side of the fence.

I don't know what happened with that. She sued.

2naSalit

(86,638 posts)
4. The other questions, partly addressed above...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:59 AM
Dec 2018

what do pooten and msb have to gain from this wall? Is it more a money laundering scheme and a gaslight issue?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
5. Food for thought.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:59 AM
Dec 2018

He does nothing unless it benefits himself personally. Even if you haven't nailed down the details precisely, I think you're certainly on to something.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
6. Chris coons described it as a $5 B fund with little government oversight
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:04 AM
Dec 2018

He might have even said “slush fund” with little government oversight

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
18. Who will get the contracts?
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:25 AM
Dec 2018

They are probably companies owned by the biggest campaign and inauguration donors. Plenty of money will kick back to the usurper in the White House.

BaileyBill

(171 posts)
7. I don't doubt that he sees an angle,
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:08 AM
Dec 2018

but I don't think it is water. The Rio Grande has been running low for years.

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
9. It might work quite well at keeping people in the U.S. and not allowing them to move south.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:12 AM
Dec 2018

Think "The Day After Tomorrow"

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
10. he often talks about a particular design of wall
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:20 AM
Dec 2018

This is the one with the vertical steel slats that you can look through. The question: who is the contractor who suggested that to him? Is there some kickback involved?
I saw this idea on the Palmer Report. Maybe there is something there, I don't know.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
30. That was interesting too...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:54 AM
Dec 2018

maybe a way to bolster all the steel monkey business earlier this year from tariffs, to supposedly 6 steel plants coming out of mothblls. (Unconfirmed I think).
I think he wants to set up a way to keep collecting taxpayer dollars through mob contacts and kick-backs after he leaves office. Probably owes a bunch of contractors as well would be my guess. And of course...the mob.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
12. Good question, and I don't doubt that is one of the reasons
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:50 AM
Dec 2018

the other reason is his narcissism, I am sure he dreams with the thought of "the trump wall" being seen from out of space, his name being edged forever in the landscape...I really hope he doesn't get the stupid wall, not even an inch of it, what a waste of money and resources.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. There is another possibility,
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:50 AM
Dec 2018

He doesn't want the wall built, he just wants to have the fight over building it.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
15. The wall he wants is a wall of fear...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:04 AM
Dec 2018

He needs a subclass to blame things on, drug dealing, murderous, terroristic, stone cold killer migrants. They are costing us 5 billion dollars a year!!! The wall will (somehow?) pay for itself!!

He needs for his deplorables to have someone to hate.

debsy

(530 posts)
16. WAAAAAYYYYYY past time to be asking this question.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:20 AM
Dec 2018

All the questions we had about Trump should have been asked and answered BEFORE the general election by the MSM. They totally abdicated their responsibility to the country and the Constitution. All of this news should have been pursued in 2015 and 2016 instead of showing us empty podiums and talking about Hillary's emails. I know hind-sight is 20/20 and we need to focus on where we are now about how to prevent further damage to our country but it needed to be said. We are definitely in crisis now. They are making their power plays now.Who knows what else dumpster and his BFF Vlad will try before January 3rd. As Rachel says, "watch this space."

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
17. Strangely enough, not everything Trump focuses on is about money...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:23 AM
Dec 2018

...Trump also cares about his ego. He needs the adulation of his cheering crowds, and he'll lose that if he doesn't stick to his wall promise.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
19. Correction: That's "Boarder" wall. He thinks it will be another of his shitty hotels.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:40 AM
Dec 2018

Or maybe a combination wall/prison?

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
21. I think it's just reelection. And maybe a legacy
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:40 AM
Dec 2018

he should know it won't be a good legacy but he thinks differently.

He was going to cave on the wall until Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh told him he could not get reelected if he didn't close down the government to get it. He's more afraid of his base than I am.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
23. Reminds me of the first(?) Christopher Reeves Superman movie...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:42 AM
Dec 2018

...where Luthor was going to obliterate the west coast, because he had cheaply bought up land just to the east, which would become the new west coast!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
25. It is a vanity project - his great pyramids
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:43 AM
Dec 2018

He is driven equally by $$$ and vanity.

It is the cornerstone of political demagoguery and all, but what is personal to him is that it would be something monolithic that would last over time that would be associated with him, with the added bonus of a big 25 billion dollar fuck you to the dumb asses who voted for him/those of us who tried to fight having him as POTUS.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
26. IFor a narcissist like him it would be his crowning legacy "Trumps wall"
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:44 AM
Dec 2018

Would be there on the border forever. I think vanity is a big driver in this. Like Hoover Dam

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
27. Recommended.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:47 AM
Dec 2018

Kick-backs from the construction companies, in the same way as in his real estate dealings.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
28. It would just be a monument to Trump but everyone should follow the money...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:48 AM
Dec 2018

Wanta bet he would know the contractors on that debacle personally? Now they have "someone" who donated $50,000 for the wall and another who donated $12,000 that sounds like a building contractor.

I'd be watching those donated millions like a hawk because everyone knows Trump and his punk kids can't wait to get their mits on that cash.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
34. The practical purposes of the wall beyond the political payoffs to Trump's base...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:01 PM
Dec 2018

... contracts for donors and an opportunity launder more money?

I would think cutting out the competition and putting trans-border crime squarely in the hands of the Mexican Mafia, Aryan Brotherhood and thus the Russian Mob would be something they are hoping to accomplish.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
35. It will turn into a slush fund, & Trump loves his slush funds!
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:04 PM
Dec 2018

This would be a $5 billion one.



Face it, our treasury has become a slush fund for the 1% & their family & friends. Trump is just the most obvious grifter of them all.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
36. The shore of the Rio Grande isn't prime vacation or hotel real estate,
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:11 PM
Dec 2018

so I don't think that's it. Getting kickbacks from the construction contracts is the more likely financial motivation. And, of course, the votes of the terrified, stupid MAGAts who actually think a wall will keep out the evil brown gang members who want to come to the US and rape their wimminfolk and harvest their lettuce; and more votes means more opportunities to violate the Emoluments Clause, do deals with Putin, and run out the statutes of limitations on the crimes he's committed.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
39. Perhaps there's a money aspect to it, but I believe he's just digging in his heels.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:27 PM
Dec 2018

It's his big dick signature, and he's going to fight hammer and tong to get it. I think he's been embarrassed by the fact that the some of the rethugs - enough of them in the Senate at least - wouldn't play ball with him. But more importantly, he was humiliated by his own Oval Office buffoonery last week when Pelosi told him he didn't have enough votes to get it passed, and if he shut down the government, he'd own it, which he then proceeded to double down on and claim it for his very own. This is just plainly a malignant narcissistic man baby pitching a hissy fit because he got spanked by Pelosi and Schumer, along with Ann Coulter and Rush Limpdick.

At this point, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised by anything he does going forward. This is a cornered wharf rat, and everyone knows not to confront one of those.

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