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allgood33

(1,584 posts) Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:37 PM Dec 2018

How likely is it that Trump will get Mitch to pass a nuke amendment so only 51 votes are needed?

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How likely is it that Trump will get Mitch to pass a nuke amendment so only 51 votes are needed? (Original Post) allgood33 Dec 2018 OP

It was reported that Trump tried to this morning and McConnell immediately shut him down on it. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #1

Of course it went this way D_Master81 Dec 2018 #2

They have 13 days and then it won't matter if the filibuster is nuked. LonePirate Dec 2018 #7

I'm grateful that Mitch McConnell isnt as crazy about the wall as he is... In It to Win It Dec 2018 #14

not very likely. Baltimike Dec 2018 #3

Watch Jeff Flake, Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #4

He might be....I am very dismayed with Mattis Baltimike Dec 2018 #8

The real story is leaking out on the Mattis thing. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #11

I believe four of them said they'd vote no... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #6

I thought it was more, but erred on the side of safety. nt Baltimike Dec 2018 #9

Agreed. McConnell might be a self serving viper, but he's not stupid. Volaris Dec 2018 #13

I wish the Turtle would do it. roamer65 Dec 2018 #5

McConnell's evil, but he's not stupid gratuitous Dec 2018 #15

Less than 1%. McTurtle knows the GOP will soon be in the minority, and they'll need the filibuster RockRaven Dec 2018 #10

sounds like zero. Johonny Dec 2018 #12

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)

1. It was reported that Trump tried to this morning and McConnell immediately shut him down on it.

Reply to allgood33 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:38 PM

Dec 2018

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)

2. Of course it went this way

Reply to bearsfootball516 (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:40 PM

Dec 2018

Trump cant stand having a check on him and McConnell would have to deal with the Dems should we get the senate back any time soon. Unfortunately if this drags on i dont see Trump caving and McConnell may end up caving to Trump on this just to open the government back up.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)

7. They have 13 days and then it won't matter if the filibuster is nuked.

Reply to D_Master81 (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:46 PM

Dec 2018

In It to Win It

(8,252 posts)

14. I'm grateful that Mitch McConnell isnt as crazy about the wall as he is...

Reply to bearsfootball516 (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:40 PM

Dec 2018

about SCOTUS nominees.

Baltimike

(4,145 posts)

3. not very likely.

Reply to allgood33 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:40 PM

Dec 2018

At least two retiring senators have already said no

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

4. Watch Jeff Flake,

Reply to Baltimike (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:43 PM

Dec 2018

he is up to something .

Baltimike

(4,145 posts)

8. He might be....I am very dismayed with Mattis

Reply to Wellstone ruled (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:49 PM

Dec 2018

love your handle, btw.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

11. The real story is leaking out on the Mattis thing.

Reply to Baltimike (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:58 PM

Dec 2018

Remember a year ago,Trump wanted Flynn to be in Mattis's spot.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)

6. I believe four of them said they'd vote no...

Reply to Baltimike (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:45 PM

Dec 2018

...Hatch, Alexander, Flake, and Corker.

They could only afford to lose one.

Baltimike

(4,145 posts)

9. I thought it was more, but erred on the side of safety. nt

Reply to regnaD kciN (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:50 PM

Dec 2018

Volaris

(10,271 posts)

13. Agreed. McConnell might be a self serving viper, but he's not stupid.

Reply to Baltimike (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:34 PM

Dec 2018

NO WAY he blows up his own chamber for the sake of Donnie's Bigly Stupid Wall.

Not gonna happen.. Yertle probably laughed in his face.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

5. I wish the Turtle would do it.

Reply to allgood33 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:43 PM

Dec 2018

It would mean we Dems won’t have to do it when we take back the Senate.

When we take it back we should definitely nuke the filibuster completely.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

15. McConnell's evil, but he's not stupid

Reply to roamer65 (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 07:42 PM

Dec 2018

He knows that he's entering his last two years of his Majority Leadership. The Senate map for 2020 is tougher for Republicans than 2018 was for Democrats. Considering the long odds against them, losing only two net seats in the Senate was a terrific hold for Democrats, and they have all the political momentum on their side.

Changing the rules of the Senate now would be a disaster in waiting for the Republicans, a ticking time bomb that will blow them apart when Congress goes back to one party rule. McConnell won't end the filibuster just so Trump can strut around crowing about his worthless victory on wall.

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)

10. Less than 1%. McTurtle knows the GOP will soon be in the minority, and they'll need the filibuster

Reply to allgood33 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:53 PM

Dec 2018

to obstruct like they did with Obama. If they nuke the filibuster, in 5 years max (likely within 3) they will lose all of the GOP agenda gains of the past 20+ years.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)

12. sounds like zero.

Reply to allgood33 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 05:45 PM

Dec 2018

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