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edhopper

(33,587 posts) Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:25 AM Dec 2018

Illegal immigration is NOT a big problem in the US.

We have a negative immigration from Mexico (more people leaving than coming) and we can handle those who come in.
They are not a problem for us. There are issues to deal with, like asylum and what to do with long time undocumented immigrants. But these are bigger problems for those people than for the country as a whole.
Compared to Healthcare, Infrastructure and Climate Change it is a low priority.
So let's stop acting as if "boarder security" is something we have to work on. Our boarders are secure now.

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Illegal immigration is NOT a big problem in the US. (Original Post) edhopper Dec 2018 OP

Legal immigration is hell on earth. That's the problem Xipe Totec Dec 2018 #1

There are immigrations issues edhopper Dec 2018 #2

DACA is a separate issue Xipe Totec Dec 2018 #5

As i said edhopper Dec 2018 #6

Yea, I get it. The Wall is Kabuki Theater. Xipe Totec Dec 2018 #7

Pretty much edhopper Dec 2018 #8

as with trade, it's a crisis of trump's own making spanone Dec 2018 #3

Agree edhopper Dec 2018 #4

I absolutely agree with the OP...KNR TruckFump Dec 2018 #9

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)

1. Legal immigration is hell on earth. That's the problem

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:30 AM

Dec 2018

The more they reduce legal options for immigration, the more tempted people are to immigrate illegally.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)

2. There are immigrations issues

Reply to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 AM

Dec 2018

and they have been addressed by things like DACA, and would continue to be dealt with.
It is just not the MAJOR problem we are facing. It really shouldn't register above a dozen other problems we deal with.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)

5. DACA is a separate issue

Reply to edhopper (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 AM

Dec 2018

That's for those who were minors when they arrived in the US without proper documentation.

I'm talking about a 20 year wait in line to process an application for legal migration to the US, sponsored by a relative. What the wingnuts call chain migration.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)

6. As i said

Reply to Xipe Totec (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

Dec 2018

there are issues, and they mainly affect the immigrants rather than us here. They can and should be dealt with. But none of them rise to the level of national emergency that Trump has made them.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)

7. Yea, I get it. The Wall is Kabuki Theater.

Reply to edhopper (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:45 AM

Dec 2018

To keep people out of the country by draconian measures after closing all possible legal paths to immigration.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)

8. Pretty much

Reply to Xipe Totec (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

Dec 2018

spanone

(135,844 posts)

3. as with trade, it's a crisis of trump's own making

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:33 AM

Dec 2018

edhopper

(33,587 posts)

4. Agree

Reply to spanone (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 AM

Dec 2018

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)

9. I absolutely agree with the OP...KNR

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Sat Dec 22, 2018, 12:23 PM

Dec 2018

LACK of immigration IMO is the problem. Immigrants coming to America's formerly welcoming arms is what made us great in the past.

FUCK Trump and his anti-immigrant bullshit.

NO MONEY FOR THE WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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