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Hermit-The-Prog

(33,389 posts) Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:46 PM Dec 2018

Trump's infatuation with the death penalty

Here Are the People Trump Said the Death Penalty Should Be Used Against This Year

“You know, the Chinese and Filipinos don’t have a drug problem. They just kill them.”

[by] Jacob Rosenberg December 25, 2018

Over the last year, President Donald Trump has repeatedly emphasized the death penalty in televised speeches, statements, and tweets. Sometimes, it was invoked in reference to certain groups, like drug dealers; other times, the president applied it to a specific individual, as he did just after the Pittsburgh synagogue massacre.

Trump’s infatuation with the death penalty isn’t new. Even before his foray into politics, he tweeted about cases where he thought capital punishment would be appropriate. He called for it when Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl made headlines for being captured after he deserted his post in Afghanistan and in the cases of the Boston Marathon bomber and the Aurora shooter. In comparison, a search of Barack Obama’s Twitter archive finds zero results for the words “death penalty.”

More famously, in 1985, Trump bought $85,000 in ads that called for the execution of the Central Park Five, who were ultimately exonerated through DNA evidence.

As president, Trump has clung to the death penalty as a tough-on-crime solution in specific circumstances, despite research that shows the death penalty has not deterred crime, and, in practice, is often arbitrary, racist, and imposed against innocent people.

Here’s a breakdown of how the president has discussed capital punishment in 2018.

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Trump's infatuation with the death penalty (Original Post) Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 OP

If he were caught duforsure Dec 2018 #1

It makes him look like a big authoritarian stud to his deplorable base The Genealogist Dec 2018 #2

How does he feel about Death for Treason? sellitman Dec 2018 #3

Trump has the soul of a murderer dalton99a Dec 2018 #4

Trump should be careful what he wishes for jmowreader Dec 2018 #5

I counted 10 before getting to the soldiers Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #6

It's probably not nice to say this, but... jmowreader Dec 2018 #8

I'm betting his opinion would change Bettie Dec 2018 #7

duforsure

(11,885 posts)

1. If he were caught

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:56 PM

Dec 2018

Doing illegal drugs , he'd claim the opposite for himself, and nothing for his consequences.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)

2. It makes him look like a big authoritarian stud to his deplorable base

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 02:18 PM

Dec 2018

His base wants to live in a world where draconian laws govern the people they think are beneath them. No need to rehash the long list of who comprises that group of people they think as beneath them. I know authoritarianism is Trump's natural philosophy, but the fact is, his base wants to live in a hard right dictatorship.

sellitman

(11,607 posts)

3. How does he feel about Death for Treason?

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 02:29 PM

Dec 2018

Just asking for a friend.

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)

4. Trump has the soul of a murderer

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 03:33 PM

Dec 2018

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)

5. Trump should be careful what he wishes for

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 04:42 PM

Dec 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_offences_in_China

There are 53 offenses for which the death penalty is an allowable sentence in China:

Crimes Endangering National Security
Treason
Separatism
Armed rebellion, rioting
Collaborating with the enemy
Spying or espionage
Selling state secrets
Providing material support to the enemy

Crimes Endangering Public Security
Arson
Flooding
Manslaughter
Bombing
Spreading poisons
Spreading hazardous substances (e.g., radioactive, toxic, pathogenic)
Seriously endangering public safety, broadly construed
Sabotaging electricity
Sabotaging gas, fuel, petroleum, or other flammables or explosives
Hijacking aircraft
Illegal possession, transport, smuggling, or selling of explosives or firearms
Trafficking or smuggling nuclear materials
Illegally manufacturing, selling, transporting or storing hazardous materials
Theft of explosives or other dangerous material
Theft of firearms, ammunition or other dangerous material

Economic crimes
Production or sale of counterfeit medicine
Production or sale of hazardous food products

Crimes against persons
Intentional homicide
Intentional assault
Rape
Kidnapping
Human trafficking

Crimes against property
Robbery

Crimes against public order
Prison escape, jailbreaking
Raiding a prison
Smuggling, dealing, transporting or manufacturing drugs
Crimes against national defense[edit]
Sabotaging weapons, military installations, or military communications
Providing substandard weapons or military installations

Corruption and bribery
Embezzlement

Breach of duty by soldiers
Insubordination
Concealment or false reporting of military intelligence
Refusing to pass or falsely passing orders
Surrender
Defection with aircraft or ships
Selling military secrets
Theft of military weaponry or supplies
Illegally selling or transferring military weaponry or supplies
Killing innocent inhabitants of war zones or plundering their property
Cowardice

Somewhere in there are at least ten reasons to stand Trump up against the wall.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,389 posts)

6. I counted 10 before getting to the soldiers

Reply to jmowreader (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:20 PM

Dec 2018

I'd rather see the Cowardly Don in state or Federal prison, though.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)

8. It's probably not nice to say this, but...

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 08:28 PM

Dec 2018

I think the Trump Family needs to be locked up in a prison that's open to visitors, like Alcatraz. We could charge $20 per person to point at him and laugh. The money would go toward attempting to fix all the damage he did.

Bettie

(16,118 posts)

7. I'm betting his opinion would change

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:58 PM

Dec 2018

dramatically if he were possibly on the receiving end of it.

I've always been against the death penalty, but for this evil, ugly, piece of clown excrement, I make an exception.

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