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cynatnite

(31,011 posts) Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:32 AM Aug 2012

Isn't this like saying I can see Russia from my house?

Speaking to Fox News’ Carl Cameron Saturday morning, Republican VP nominee Paul Ryan made the case for why he believes his foreign policy credentials are stronger than President Obama’s, emphasizing that he has been a voting member of Congress longer than the president. Ryan cited his votes in favor of the Iraq War as evidence that he has had more foreign policy experience than Obama.

“I’ve been in Congress for a number of years,” he told Cameron. “That’s more experience than Barack Obama had when he came into office.”

“I voted to send people to war,” he added.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-on-foreign-policy-credentials-i-voted-to-send-people-to-war/

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Isn't this like saying I can see Russia from my house? (Original Post) cynatnite Aug 2012 OP

Pretty close, I'd say. elleng Aug 2012 #1

Well, in that case, he has gobs more than his running mate..... WCGreen Aug 2012 #2

Well let's see overall Tx4obama Aug 2012 #3

He can see Canada from his front porch. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #4

LOL!!! Here is what it says about Paul Ryan on Wikipedia re foreign policy Tx4obama Aug 2012 #5

A nominee with the least foreign policy experience in the last 100 years... cynatnite Aug 2012 #7

President Obama is 100 times more intelligent/decent than Ryan. That's all I need to know. lumpy Aug 2012 #6

So Ryan is saying he got suckered by the Bush-Cheney lies about WMDs and all the rest... Berlum Aug 2012 #8

He sounds like he hasn't gotten the memo yet lunatica Aug 2012 #9

Going to war is what you do when diplomacy fails.... Scuba Aug 2012 #10

elleng

(130,974 posts)

1. Pretty close, I'd say.

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:36 AM

Aug 2012

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)

2. Well, in that case, he has gobs more than his running mate.....

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:39 AM

Aug 2012

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

3. Well let's see overall

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:11 AM

Aug 2012

Obama...

Attorney
Constitutional Law Professor
Illinois State Senator - 8 years
U.S. Senator*** - 4 years
U.S. President - 4 years

Obama wins

*** U.S. Senator: 2005–2008

Committees

Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works, and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[95] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[96] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[97] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He met with Mahmoud Abbas before Abbas became President of the Palestinian National Authority, and gave a speech at the University of Nairobi in which he condemned corruption within the Kenyan government.[98]

Legislation
Info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama#U.S._Senator:_2005.E2.80.932008

So, I would say that just Obama's four years in The U.S. Senate alone beats all of the years Ryan has been in The House.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

4. He can see Canada from his front porch.

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:22 AM

Aug 2012

Ryan is as big if not a bigger doofus, than the quitter-in-chief, the former Governor of Alaska. I really don't get why people are saying this guy is smart. Everything he says sounds as stupid as when Palin would have her gaffes. He might be a bit more articulate, but I don't really see that either. He is Romney lite.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

5. LOL!!! Here is what it says about Paul Ryan on Wikipedia re foreign policy

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:22 AM

Aug 2012

Foreign policy

Ryan has been primarily involved in budget matters and has little foreign policy experience.[57] Critics noted this, with former Democratic congressman and former ambassador to India Timothy J. Roemer telling Reuters: "I think his experience as a vice presidential candidate is thin; or for a future president and commander-in-chief, it's virtually absent."[58] Senior Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom defended Ryan, stating that his position as House Budget Committee chairman has given him intimate knowledge of defense spending and initiatives and adding that Ryan has been in Congress for 14 years, "longer than Barack Obama when he decided to run for president."[59] During his tenure in the Congress, Ryan has participated in seven trips abroad as a member of a congressional delegation.[60]

Reviewing the history of past presidential tickets, Jonathan Bernstein concluded that "depending on how one scores these things," Romney/Ryan is "certainly the ticket with the least foreign policy and national security experience since at least 1948, and perhaps as far back as 1912."[61] On the other hand, Senator John McCain and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich have compared the Romney/Ryan ticket's foreign policy credentials favorably with that of Ronald Reagan.[59]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_ryan#Foreign_policy

AND

Foreign and military policy

Ryan voted in 2001 and 2004 to end the embargo on Cuba,[147][148][149][150] but later reversed his positions, and since 2007 has voted against easing the embargo.[150] In 2008 Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, "If we're going to have free trade with China, why not Cuba?"[149]

Ryan was a "reliable supporter of the (George W. Bush) administration's foreign policy priorities" who voted for the 2002 Iraq Resolution, authorizing President George W. Bush to use military force in Iraq.[60] Ryan also voted for the Iraq War troop surge of 2007.[60] In May 2012, Ryan voted for H.R. 4310, which would increase defense spending, including spending for the Afghanistan War and for various weapon systems, to the level of $642 billion – $8 billion more than previous spending levels.[151]

In 2009, Ryan termed the Obama administrations' "reset" of relations with Russia as "appeasement."[124] Daniel Larison of the The American Conservative wrote that Ryan "seems to conceive of U.S. power abroad mostly in terms of military strength" and "truly is a product of the era of George W. Bush."[124]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_ryan#Foreign_and_military_policy

p.s. Bolding is mine, for emphasis.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)

7. A nominee with the least foreign policy experience in the last 100 years...

Reply to Tx4obama (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:50 PM

Aug 2012

That would make for a good commercial.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)

6. President Obama is 100 times more intelligent/decent than Ryan. That's all I need to know.

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:50 PM

Aug 2012

Berlum

(7,044 posts)

8. So Ryan is saying he got suckered by the Bush-Cheney lies about WMDs and all the rest...

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:53 PM

Aug 2012

What a sucky qualification for anything, even dog catcher...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

9. He sounds like he hasn't gotten the memo yet

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:55 PM

Aug 2012

Ryan, voting for what everyone now knows was a pack of lies to go to war is nothing to brag about. It shows your international experience is something you should be more embarrassed about than proud of.

Shhhh!

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

10. Going to war is what you do when diplomacy fails....

Reply to cynatnite (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:01 PM

Aug 2012

... Paul Ryan = FAIL

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