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brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:20 PM Dec 2018

The Inevitability of Impeachment

Elizabeth Drew:

An impeachment process against President Trump now seems inescapable. Unless the president resigns, the pressure by the public on the Democratic leaders to begin an impeachment process next year will only increase. Too many people think in terms of stasis: How things are is how they will remain. They don’t take into account that opinion moves with events.

Whether or not there’s already enough evidence to impeach Mr. Trump — I think there is — we will learn what the special counsel, Robert Mueller, has found, even if his investigation is cut short. A significant number of Republican candidates didn’t want to run with Mr. Trump in the midterms, and the results of those elections didn’t exactly strengthen his standing within his party. His political status, weak for some time, is now hurtling downhill.

The midterms were followed by new revelations in criminal investigations of once-close advisers as well as new scandals involving Mr. Trump himself. The odor of personal corruption on the president’s part — perhaps affecting his foreign policy — grew stronger. Then the events of the past several days — the president’s precipitous decision to pull American troops out of Syria, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis’s abrupt resignation, the swoon in the stock market, the pointless shutdown of parts of the government — instilled a new sense of alarm among many Republicans.

The word “impeachment” has been thrown around with abandon. The frivolous impeachment of President Bill Clinton helped to define it as a form of political revenge. But it is far more important and serious than that: It has a critical role in the functioning of our democracy.

Elizabeth Drew, a political journalist who for many years covered Washington for The New Yorker, is the author of “Washington Journal: Reporting Watergate and Richard Nixon’s Downfall.”

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The Inevitability of Impeachment (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2018 OP
In Yes, Prime Minister they used to use the term Turbineguy Dec 2018 #1
And is it also inevitable that 2/3rds of the Senate will vote to impeach? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2
Nancy Pelosi will lead the Dems in passing a "wall free" spending bill in January Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #3
+1 Right on! Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #4
Agreed, in part. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #8
that's not relevant, yet Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #5
'yet' is the key here, I think. Volaris Dec 2018 #6
One thing I know ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #7
The thought on his part that he and his crime family might ever find a way out of this abyss Totally Tunsie Dec 2018 #9
Predicted weekly yet nothing happens. nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #11

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. And is it also inevitable that 2/3rds of the Senate will vote to impeach?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:22 PM
Dec 2018

A question that we all must ask.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
3. Nancy Pelosi will lead the Dems in passing a "wall free" spending bill in January
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:41 PM
Dec 2018

Should she first ask if the GOP senate will pass it, or send it to them and let them sweat?

Same thing goes for impeachment- 20+ GOP senators up for re-election in 2020; I say pass articles of impeachment with overwhelming evidence, and send it to the Senate for trial...make every one of those senators take a public stand, and defend it on the campaign trail.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
5. that's not relevant, yet
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:54 PM
Dec 2018

Given what we already know, and what we suspect will be confirmed by investigations not yet started, it is inevitable that public opinion will turn to demand Trump's removal. At that point, the Senate will fail to convict at their own peril.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
6. 'yet' is the key here, I think.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:03 PM
Dec 2018

It won't happen in January...the votes aren't there. But as Trump's crimes begin to endanger McConnell and his cadre of turtles, i suspect they will cut a bargain with Pelosi: well make sure he's convicted, if none of the rest of us are (investigated?).

McConnell could find the votes needed if it meant saving his own shell.
Promise.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. One thing I know
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:08 PM
Dec 2018

This shitshow will inevitably end, and it won't be pretty for the Rump and his family. Even if he escapes prosecution (which I do not think is at all possible), his "brand" is dead. I want him to die a pauper.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
9. The thought on his part that he and his crime family might ever find a way out of this abyss
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:33 PM
Dec 2018

shows what an idiotic, delusional, and imperceptive moron he is.

Give it up, Donnie...you don't stand a chance of coming out of this ahead. Save what little of your fat ass you can, and give the rest of us a break by disappearing swiftly.

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