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a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 09:15 AM Jan 2012

On MSNBC.....did anyone notice that Rachel WAS the moderator???

Thought it was kinda telling that she was the moderator and the men were just the responders....and did anyone see the little tiff of Lawrence and Big Ed??? Yikes.... not quite fist to cuffs but pretty terse. Wish there was a video of it. I felt pretty uncomfortable.

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On MSNBC.....did anyone notice that Rachel WAS the moderator??? (Original Post) a kennedy Jan 2012 OP
I missed that; do you remember what the tiff was about? nt babylonsister Jan 2012 #1
I think Ed was saying that Santorum was at least talking about "middle class" issues... a kennedy Jan 2012 #3
It was an interesting tiff. I liked that Rachael was the one who was leading and always with a southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #4
I noticed the tiff as well my2sense Jan 2012 #9
Video... Scuba Jan 2012 #2
Yes, but I can not stand listening to her. Love what she says, no doubt...but she Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #5
I love her too, but can only listen to her for so long, Mostly because of Kahuna Jan 2012 #6
I love how fast she talks. tabatha Jan 2012 #15
yes, different strokes. to me, not the speed, but the tone and she uses way too many words to get Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #20
Exactly! 'too many words to get her point across' And she seems to be using more and more Fuzz Jan 2012 #34
thanks...thought I was in a different universe. Last night, on the panel, Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #37
I prefer the slow delivery of Lawrence O'Donnell. Kahuna Jan 2012 #33
+1 Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Jan 2012 #19
The mom keeping "The Boys" under control? Odin2005 Jan 2012 #7
Or the franchise star doing what franchise stars do--she is MSNBC right now. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #36
She's "The Franchise" Now... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #8
Tweety showed his misogyny. She tossed a topic to him and he "didn't hear." UTUSN Jan 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jan 2012 #14
Don't forget his creepy drooling over Erin Burnett JBoy Jan 2012 #16
"as disrespectable" - ain't that the truth. n/t UTUSN Jan 2012 #18
So, I guess now it's wrong for a guy to flirt with a girl nt Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #21
Do you consider that acceptable "flirting"? JBoy Jan 2012 #28
Yes, sorry. She's beautiful. He loves women. Ageless story. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #29
So you think he purposely did not respond to make her look bad and diminish her role? nt Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #22
Well, as I said, he's got a history. And as I said she (her tone) sounded "ignored" (hurt And Tweety UTUSN Jan 2012 #24
good observation...but to me, given his experience and work ethic don't think he would do that. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #30
She does a good job moderating without Olbermann's ego. WI_DEM Jan 2012 #11
Seeing a woman controlling the debate was wonderful cally Jan 2012 #12
"Hey! It's Rick Perry!" Iggo Jan 2012 #13
there is video of it. Raine1967 Jan 2012 #17
This pretty much sums up what I thought too.....thanks for posting this. a kennedy Jan 2012 #25
The look Al Sharpton gives on the first video tells it all. Ed is looking completely foolish. I have Pisces Jan 2012 #27
I saw that "disagreement.... polmaven Jan 2012 #23
Rachel was the perfect choice as moderator and deserves it!! She is clear and concise and smarter Pisces Jan 2012 #26
smarter, yes....concise...hmmm, to me, not so much. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #31
she is the absolute best out there in tv news land. Whisp Jan 2012 #32
I agree 100%. She is the best and no can touch her!! Pisces Jan 2012 #35

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
3. I think Ed was saying that Santorum was at least talking about "middle class" issues...
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jan 2012

jobs, and such, and Lawrence was saying that the jobs he was talking about weren't going to be in the US but in other countries....or something like that. I thought all the men looked pretty upset being there all together....no love lost by any means. I thought Rachel did a great job, but I'm sure the men were a little pissed that she was the "head" so to speak.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
4. It was an interesting tiff. I liked that Rachael was the one who was leading and always with a
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 09:42 AM
Jan 2012

smile and keeping everyone in check.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. Yes, but I can not stand listening to her. Love what she says, no doubt...but she
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 10:03 AM
Jan 2012

has grating speech patterns to me - and is hard to listen to because she over verbalizes EVERYTHING she talks
about. I find myself zoning out waiting for her main point.

Suppose I am probably alone on this....do love her...just wish she would take some speech/broadcasting advise.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
15. I love how fast she talks.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jan 2012

I am amazed - I have never found a problem with her speech patterns. Ever. I guess different strokes for different folks.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. yes, different strokes. to me, not the speed, but the tone and she uses way too many words to get
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jan 2012

her point across. I notice, on a panel, by the time she finishes, people look at her agape and if I read
their mind, they are saying "what the hell did she just say."

It is funny how some voices irritate. Like Ron Paul's nasally wining gets to me. Although in the last couple days he sounds so different. Maybe he's worn out.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. thanks...thought I was in a different universe. Last night, on the panel,
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jan 2012

at one point she acted like she had something really important to say and she spoke and the whole panel of guys just for a moment sat there - obviously not a one understanding. Who knows, maybe all of them plus me, are operating on a lower intellectual level - or- she's trying too hard

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
36. Or the franchise star doing what franchise stars do--she is MSNBC right now.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jan 2012

Kinda like Brokaw was for NBC for years. Was he the dad keeping the boys in line?

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
8. She's "The Franchise" Now...
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jan 2012

Rachel is the best in handling the many things that go into election coverage. Her radio background serves her real well here...moving from one reporter to another to one guest to another and keeping all the people at the table in the mix. I was very impressed how she handled this.

She's in that role cause she's become the face of the network...the one with the highest ratings and the best reputation among all in the network. I found her rapport with the "old timers" like Brokaw and even Tweety as less strained than when KO was handling this role. While she was able to meander in and out of a lot of different locations, she did bore the Iowa Sec. of State a fourteenth asshole about that state's new restrictive voting laws...and did it with a smile.

Ed doesn't play well with others...and you could see him doing the slow burn all evening long. Methinks he's used to having the spotlight to himself...

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
10. Tweety showed his misogyny. She tossed a topic to him and he "didn't hear."
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jan 2012

This would be the first time Tweety would pass up a chance to run his mouth. There were ten seconds of silence, and Rachel said with a sort of slighted tone, "Mr MATTHEWS... ?!" He said, "Oh, I didn't hear you..."

He calls his wife, "Kathleen, my queen." But this is the syndrome of putting-woman-on-pedestal-while-denying-rights common to the Catholic empire. So he and the despicable BARNICLE pretended to host Kathleen one time, but giggled like boys in Catholic school whenever she talked.

Here's his dirty old man thing about Britney SPEARS from long ago:

Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Response to UTUSN (Reply #10)

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
16. Don't forget his creepy drooling over Erin Burnett
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jan 2012


That was about as disrespectful as anything I've seen on TV.

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
24. Well, as I said, he's got a history. And as I said she (her tone) sounded "ignored" (hurt And Tweety
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jan 2012

*never* passes up opportunities to yak, or rather even creates the opportunities to interrupt and jump in. And he likes to be in charge. Just my observation of that moment and my subjective interpretation.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
30. good observation...but to me, given his experience and work ethic don't think he would do that.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jan 2012

I have watched him for years and years faithfully. Sure, he's pissed me off a couple times. He's
not perfect - maybe that is why I have always liked him. He doesn't hold back which gets him into
trouble but also gives him an amazingly authentic personality. Maybe I just love flawed history buffs.

cally

(21,594 posts)
12. Seeing a woman controlling the debate was wonderful
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jan 2012

It's so rare to see men defer to women on political topics in the media. Women rarely get a voice in the media.

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
25. This pretty much sums up what I thought too.....thanks for posting this.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 01:35 PM
Jan 2012

"Schultz’s point, I believe, wasn’t about the merits of Santorum’s plan, but about the appeal of manufacturing rhetoric, while O’Donnell was having a different conversation entirely. The plan calls for tax-free repatriation of profits, as long as the funds are used to purchase manufacturing equipment. Santorum says this will spur manufacturing, but critics say it’s just a giveaway to corporations that will be used for purchases they were going to make anyway.

Ed’s assessment of Santorum’s retail skills is dead-on, and he’s right about how Santorum’s plan will play with voters, but it is also necessary to go over the substance of the issue. I’d have been interested to see if Schultz would have done that, had O’Donnell given him the chance. It’s also worth considering whether O’Donnell jumped all over Schultz out of anti-Santorum zeal, or because of some sour-grapey unresolved resentment over Schultz’s takeover of O’Donnell’s 8pm time slot. Maybe it was a bit of each."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ed-schultz-and-lawrence-odonnell-get-into-it-over-rick-santorum-manufacturing-plan/

edit to put in quotes.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
27. The look Al Sharpton gives on the first video tells it all. Ed is looking completely foolish. I have
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 01:50 PM
Jan 2012

never liked Ed or his style. Santorum as good as Obama??? He is smoking crack.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
26. Rachel was the perfect choice as moderator and deserves it!! She is clear and concise and smarter
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jan 2012

than everyone at the table.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
32. she is the absolute best out there in tv news land.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jan 2012

nobody comes close. nobody, not even the old timer hefties.

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