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question everything

(47,509 posts)
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 02:11 AM Jan 2019

Could not help it, as I was watching the NY celebrations

thinking of all the federal workers who certainly cannot celebrate anything.

The other day one of them said that she had to postpone a knee surgery because would not have the co-pay.

They have been collecting several millions for "the wall" on GoFundMe. How about giving these millions to the federal employees, many of them will not get their pay back?

What a horrible person he is. What a way to start a new year. May this be your last one.

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Could not help it, as I was watching the NY celebrations (Original Post) question everything Jan 2019 OP
NY is leading the resistance to this POS squatting in the WH. roamer65 Jan 2019 #1
Thank you. Good for governor Cuomo question everything Jan 2019 #2
Excellent! My sister in California Cha Jan 2019 #4
Our NY Attorney General, Barbara Underwood, has been Golden Raisin Jan 2019 #6
I have never been a federal employee, but two times in my life PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #3
We can't assume that things will work as they did before MiniMe Jan 2019 #5
Not true for all federal employees... 2naSalit Jan 2019 #7
I lose. I work for several projects in the Commerce Dept-- two are funded, one not... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #9
YEAR OF THE ORANGE JUMPSUIT yuiyoshida Jan 2019 #8

Cha

(297,418 posts)
4. Excellent! My sister in California
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 02:41 AM
Jan 2019

said she saw all the Peeps in Times Square on TV with Umbrellas and there were a Million of them!

My theory is since NYC is such a Blue City that they were extra happy and wanted to celebrate because of the Blue-Wave to help stop trump in 2019.

Golden Raisin

(4,611 posts)
6. Our NY Attorney General, Barbara Underwood, has been
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 04:39 AM
Jan 2019

fantastic in leading the fight against Trump (as well as on many other important non-Trumpian fronts). She is returning to her previous position as Solicitor General. Our NEWLY elected Attorney General, Letitia James, promises to be just as active and tenacious. This is all crucial as Trump and Family are from New York so our jurisdiction is important.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,868 posts)
3. I have never been a federal employee, but two times in my life
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 02:31 AM
Jan 2019

I've been impacted by a strike. And even though a strike isn't exactly the same thing, mainly that striking employees NEVER get back the wages lost, and federal employees, at least so far always have, I know what it's like to be involuntarily unemployed.

I do feel as though I have to repeat that in the past federal employees have always gotten back pay, because the two times I was on strike (and neither time was it my group, and so I was out on strike for another employee group) I lost pay. I never got it back. I was involuntarily unemployed and had no hope of recovering lost pay.

And while I do have reasonable sympathy for the federal employees currently on shut down, they are not going to lose anything remotely resembling what union employees usually lose during a strike.

Really. Every single time there's been a government shut down, the federal employees lose not one penny of salary. Yes, there may be a week or two delay in pay, but honestly, if you're a federal employee and can't survive a week or two, I honestly have trouble being sympathetic.

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
5. We can't assume that things will work as they did before
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 04:33 AM
Jan 2019

The orange buffoon won't necessarily sign the bill that needs to be done for the federal workers to get the back pay. And the contractors who have been out of work because of the shutdown will almost certainly not be paid. Remember, Donald is cheap unless the money is going to him.

2naSalit

(86,690 posts)
7. Not true for all federal employees...
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 04:51 AM
Jan 2019

mostly those with federal employee collective bargaining status get paid for not working, many will not be, like all those seasonal employees at the NPS and USFS and BLM and the like. Probably a good 50% or more will not see pay for not being able to work. Those who have a position with furlough status will get paid and those who have to work during the shutdown will get paid, the rest... not.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
9. I lose. I work for several projects in the Commerce Dept-- two are funded, one not...
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:10 AM
Jan 2019

and yet more are up in the air.

Each project has to completed within a certain time frame, so if any deadlines are passed while shut down, I just lose.

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