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underpants

(182,848 posts)
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:12 PM Jan 2019

Why doesn't Google mention public libraries?

I was looking for a book - yes my short attention span self is looking at buying a book - so I googled it.

I understand the money element but google seems to think they are changing the world so why don't I see if a given book is available at a local library*? Hell google knows where I am. I bought some shoes a few days ago and now every search is splattered with shoe ads. They've got the where and what...and obviously who.

I'm going to email them and it would be great..... if .....I'm not the only one 😉☮️

*my mother was a librarian so I grew up in quiet dark places.

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Why doesn't Google mention public libraries? (Original Post) underpants Jan 2019 OP
It would take quite a bit of technology and effort to connect Google's search engine to every WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #1
Well crap underpants Jan 2019 #6
Even if they could... Adrahil Jan 2019 #21
If you want to see if your local library has the book you're looking for... llmart Jan 2019 #2
But I'm lazy underpants Jan 2019 #5
Worldcat.org exboyfil Jan 2019 #3
Thank you underpants Jan 2019 #4
Also, if you are looking to BUY a book, as far as I know pangaia Jan 2019 #27
Yes I know that underpants Jan 2019 #29
Oh, I get it, sorry.. pangaia Jan 2019 #31
Thanks for that link! blogslut Jan 2019 #7
Librarian here trixie2 Jan 2019 #8
I get that but google skips several steps underpants Jan 2019 #11
A lot of libraries have apps now for your phone trixie2 Jan 2019 #19
Yeah underpants Jan 2019 #20
Can you not Google your public library by name? trixie2 Jan 2019 #22
Yes. I mean that if I'm looking for a book underpants Jan 2019 #23
Libraries don't work that way trixie2 Jan 2019 #24
My point is simply to direct people towards them underpants Jan 2019 #26
Google is just another website. MrGrieves Jan 2019 #25
Yes I know underpants Jan 2019 #32
HEY DON'T FORGET ABOUT YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY trixie2 Jan 2019 #35
Ah yeah libraries are wonderful MrGrieves Jan 2019 #37
Why don't you get the number to your public library and give it a call? Blue_true Jan 2019 #9
Overdrive, Libby (new app) and kindle ...tablets-both android and Amazon kindle fire tablets Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #10
Are all your library cards from local or regional libraries? Habibi Jan 2019 #12
In Ohio, you can have a library at any branch that allows it..and most do. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #16
Thanks! Never occurred to me. I just applied for a NY Public Library card. Habibi Jan 2019 #17
There's also Hoopla digital crazycatlady Jan 2019 #14
I have that too ...forgot. Technology allows so much access to media...I love to read. There is Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #15
Mostly because most library databases aren't MineralMan Jan 2019 #13
And we can't wait until all the library patrons' information is publically available, right? erronis Jan 2019 #33
Some, perhaps many, libraries have networked and digitized their catalogues. planetc Jan 2019 #18
If library sites were popular clicks after people search books, they would rise up in rankings. X_Digger Jan 2019 #28
Just use Worldcat -- and, it's free to look up stuff obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #30
It's a good idea Renew Deal Jan 2019 #34
Maybe Google views libraries as competitors... ecstatic Jan 2019 #36

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,374 posts)
1. It would take quite a bit of technology and effort to connect Google's search engine to every
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:14 PM
Jan 2019

library. I'm not terribly interested in giving a private company access to that information, either.

underpants

(182,848 posts)
6. Well crap
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:58 PM
Jan 2019

They have one piece of carpet per floor in their new mothership- I know someone involved in that - no seams. I'd think they can do this.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
21. Even if they could...
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:19 PM
Jan 2019

Every individual library would have to agree to itand have tech on their side to support it.

I dig this idea, though.

llmart

(15,545 posts)
2. If you want to see if your local library has the book you're looking for...
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:31 PM
Jan 2019

maybe you ought to go on your local library's website and search their catalog.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. Worldcat.org
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:50 PM
Jan 2019

You can search by zip code for any book. I think they are tied to most library's databases. Also many public libraries do interlibrary loans.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. Also, if you are looking to BUY a book, as far as I know
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jan 2019

most libraries do not sell books, except perhaps when they get over-stocked.

underpants

(182,848 posts)
29. Yes I know that
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jan 2019

I guess I didn’t make my point in the OP. I’m simply concerned with directing traffic TOWARDS libraries.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
31. Oh, I get it, sorry..
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:54 PM
Jan 2019

I just searched for THE GIRL WHO KICKED THE HORNET'S NEST in our local area library system just for kicks and found a bunch.

I just learned something, thanks...




trixie2

(905 posts)
8. Librarian here
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jan 2019

Just load your public library's website on you device, log in and never log out. If you are lucky you will belong to a cooperative of many cities, counties or even statewide. A lot of small cities, even within our county, that are GOP run have opted out of library sharing. OF COURSE THEY HAVE.

trixie2

(905 posts)
19. A lot of libraries have apps now for your phone
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:59 PM
Jan 2019

I like to use my laptop and just put in the website.

Someone above raises the point that library catalogs are intranets and not available for item searching like a store. They aren't meant to be like a store.

trixie2

(905 posts)
22. Can you not Google your public library by name?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jan 2019

That would seem very odd. A lot of libraries have QR codes now too.

underpants

(182,848 posts)
23. Yes. I mean that if I'm looking for a book
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:44 PM
Jan 2019

or anyone is a link to their local library could be an “Oh yeah! The library!” moment

trixie2

(905 posts)
24. Libraries don't work that way
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jan 2019

I always use my library FIRST for book title searching. I only buy books if I must have them. I read 60 books last year so buying them seems silly.

You might also want to sign up for or even just get book reviews from Goodreads.com. It's a great place to list your books you want to read, you are reading or have read by your own categories.

underpants

(182,848 posts)
26. My point is simply to direct people towards them
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jan 2019

For a lot of people libraries simply don’t cross their mind.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
25. Google is just another website.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:48 PM
Jan 2019

Google is just another website.... And they collect that data too. I will never understand why people are so hellbent on giving google more of what it wants. If you can go to google you can just go to your library website. Hell you only have to go there once and then you can favorite it. I presume you don't somehow use google to read this site right?

underpants

(182,848 posts)
32. Yes I know
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:54 PM
Jan 2019

My point was really about directing people towards libraries. A “Hey! Don’t forget about your local library” type thing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Why don't you get the number to your public library and give it a call?
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:35 PM
Jan 2019

The number certainly shows up on the Web. Google and other search engines can't solve problems that we can easily solve ourselves.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
10. Overdrive, Libby (new app) and kindle ...tablets-both android and Amazon kindle fire tablets
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jan 2019

I have 20 library cards ...most are on line only. I am reading three books right now. Janet Evanovich's Stephanie PLum ...25th in the series-mystery, A non-fiction about the flu epidemic of 1918 and the new Preston Child book... all from a library. You can also get free books on kindle and sign up for kindle unlimited. Also, open library.

Habibi

(3,598 posts)
12. Are all your library cards from local or regional libraries?
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:20 PM
Jan 2019

I didn't know you could get a library card without some proof you live in the same town or county.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
16. In Ohio, you can have a library at any branch that allows it..and most do.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

Many libraries here and elsewhere offer on line only cards. For a relatively small fee, you can access other states as well.

Habibi

(3,598 posts)
17. Thanks! Never occurred to me. I just applied for a NY Public Library card.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jan 2019

Free for anyone who lives, works, or pays taxes in NYS. I'm in Western NY, but I'll have access to all their ebooks and online databases. Woot!

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
14. There's also Hoopla digital
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:22 PM
Jan 2019

Hoopla also has video (I need to get this set up because my library offers it)

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
15. I have that too ...forgot. Technology allows so much access to media...I love to read. There is
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:47 AM
Jan 2019

RBdigital where I get my magazine fix for free.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
13. Mostly because most library databases aren't
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jan 2019

Directly exposed to the Internet. Google can't see them. Library card holders have accounts the can use to log into library websites and use search tools there, but the database isn't open. That's because many libraries databases also include patron information. A lot of public libraries are still using 80s data technology, or 90s tech.

erronis

(15,314 posts)
33. And we can't wait until all the library patrons' information is publically available, right?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:04 PM
Jan 2019

I'm not snarking at you but for everyone that wants all databases available for any type of searches - be prepared for the consequences.

The other option is to put all this public (library) information behind some login firewall. That treads on my/your privacy concerns.

Jeez!

planetc

(7,824 posts)
18. Some, perhaps many, libraries have networked and digitized their catalogues.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jan 2019

In practical terms, this means that I can search for a book in the local system and find several copies usually, maybe one at my local library and seven more at other area libraries. If my local libe doesn't have it on the shelf, I can put a hold on that book and have it delivered to my local library, where it will be held for a week until I can pick it up. The system also has other invaluable features: on-line renewal (or notification the book can't be renewed), and automatic renewal, of which I will be notified by email. This makes it astonishingly easy to get hold of a book, read it, and be reminded when it's due.

After all, you have to physically go to a library to pick your book up, because libraries don't have home delivery yet. ** But since the loan of the book will cost you zip, zilch, and nada, the cost of getting to the library is your only expense.

**I just remembered that our local library does deliver some books to a local senior citizens' apartment complex. The deliverypeople are volunteers, but the program, I think, demonstrates just how much can be accomplished by cooperation, rather than competition.

And so, underpants, to use your local library system, you will have to hit a different button than the Google button, and get to the library building, but I find library use one of the most satisfying of public programs. And I urge you to find out what your local system can offer.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
28. If library sites were popular clicks after people search books, they would rise up in rankings.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jan 2019

Most often when I search a book, I get goodreads.com reviews. I imagine that's the link that folks mostly click.

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
36. Maybe Google views libraries as competitors...
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jan 2019

Remember back in the day when we had to read a book to find out information? Now we just google it.

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