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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's Tax Bill is costing my boss around $100,000 more in taxes this year
Well not really taxes but out of pocket expenses to reimburse employees for mileage that we used to get back on our taxes.
He recently found out his employees can't write off their mileage when driving for the company and he is furious! His employees who often drive as much as 40,000 miles a year can't write their miles off now. He has always covered gas, oil changes and any work the vehicles needed but we wrote the miles off ourselves to cover the wear and devaluation. So he is going to have to pick up the tab for that now for around 45 employees. Probably about $100,000 or more out of his pocket. HE IS PISSED!
Snip: Employees Get No Deduction for Work-Related Mileage
Before 2018, employees who incurred out-of-pocket expenses to perform their jobs could claim a deduction as long as expenses were not reimbursed by their employer. This was a miscellaneous itemized deduction, meaning it could be claimed only by taxpayers who chose to itemize. Also, such expenses were deductible only if, and to the extent, they exceeded 2% of the employees adjusted gross income. By far the most common unreimbursed employee expense was job-related mileage (not including personal commuting). Other deductible unreimbursed expenses included long-distance travel expenses, continuing education expenses required for present employment, job search expenses for the same occupation, work-related dues and subscriptions, depreciation on a home computer used for work, and home offices used for the convenience of the employer. In 2015, 14.6 million taxpayers claimed this deduction, for a total of more than $96 billion.
The TCJA eliminated this deduction entirely starting in 2018 and continuing through 2025. This means that if youre an employee who drives for work you may not deduct any of your car expenses on your personal tax return.
You should seek to have your employer reimburse you for your work-related mileage. You can use the standard mileage rate54.5 cents per mile in 2018to calculate your reimbursements. Such reimbursements are tax-free to you, the employee, so long as you adequately account for your mileage and also tax deductible by your employer. If an employee drives his or her car a lot for work, it could be worthwhile to accept a salary reduction in return for such reimbursement. Tax must be paid on salary, while the reimbursements are tax-free.
Alternatively, an employer can provide an employee with a company car, which would be tax free if the employee only uses it for work-related driving (not including personal commuting).
https://www.buildium.com/blog/how-tax-reform-affects-your-2018-mileage-deduction/
Hav
(5,969 posts)on the other side, your employer should have been the one who pays that in the first place and the employer should be able to add that to the costs for the company with implications for the taxes he has to pay. Also, with 40000 miles a year, I hope the employees have the choice to get a car payed by the company instead of using their private car.
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)I put on about 25,000 miles a year and usually got back around $2000 for my miles. The key for me has always been buying used cars that are not worth that much. For example buying a used car with around 40,000 miles on it for $13,000. I can usually get around 200,000 miles before a vehicle is pretty much falling apart. So I am able to drive the vehicle for about 6 years. So I end up getting back about $12,000 in that 6 years and never had to pay for any work or gas. He is pretty good about letting our gas carry over into our non working driving. We also get two meals a day when on the road.
There is probably only a couple of drivers who put on as much as 40,000. I did it a couple of times about 15 years ago. He also has allowed some employees to use his own older vehicles.
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts).
That would be $13,625 for 25K miles.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Looks like he has a reasonably successful privately owned company. With company cars, everything can be written off, the way he was doing it, he could not write off because the expenses were not direct to his company, although they supported company operations.
MichMan
(11,915 posts)
now that his scheme of screwing over his employees by not paying the mileage allowance is ending.
Even by paying for your own gas and repairs, you would be thousands ahead every year had he done the right thing all along. Looks like this change in the tax laws is actually going to put a lot more $ on your pocket now that he is going to pay mileage allowances.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If he purchased a company fleet several things would have happened;
1. He would gotten a break on the purchases from the dealer, they love fleet purchases because they make out real good.
2. Every expense, gas, maintenance, insurance, could have been written off as a cost of doing business. The yearly depreciation in the car's bookvalue could be written off. That should have saved him a lot of money. When he flipped the fleet, the depreciated cars could be used as tradeins for the new fleet.
I am guess that he allowed employees to claim the mileage deduction to allow them to reduce their taxes, if I read the OP right, the boss was paying for everything else related to wear and tear, fuel, oil - so he gained nothing by avoiding the mileage payout, actually paying it would have helped him save on taxes.
The guy seems to have a successful business, it must sell a high demand product because the way he handled business travel is silly and costly to him.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)If he does, a double screw job is coming his way.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)I'm with AOC and think the rich should be taxed at 70 to 80%.