I thought it was strange that she framed this statement as a discussion with a child. Then I went looking and found this story about her sons with her "dabbing" as she cast her vote for Speaker Pelosi and I love it!

https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a25737837/rashida-tlaibs-kids-heroes-dabbed-on-the-floor-of-congress/

And it's become the story for cons to pretend all Democrats feel this way. I'm furious with her.

It was a tactical blunder and I'm guessing she'd had a few drinks... as for the rest, isn't that what they were going to do anyway?

She's Muslim. No alcohol.

I agree it was stupid. But here's the thing.

After excruciating worries over every iota of every act word or tan suit.... one service trump has provided is to show us there is in fact quite wide latitude when it comes to gaffes, misstatements half- and untruths.

Let it blow over. While it might affect her future, it does not affect the party nor the incoming class'.

...especially those who are directly impacted by Trump's criminal and immoral behavior.

All of the outrage should be reserved for those who are actually working to hurt us; those who are using their positions in government to enrich themselves at our expense; those who are working to dismantle our democracy; not those who are (correctly) speaking their minds.

where your statement would be true. Democrats HAVE to be above this kind of nonsense, prove they can put their heads down and govern. They didn't win the House by promising impeachment - they won by talking about the issues. She screwed up - it's okay to admit that.

...we'll find out if calling out the abuser offends any significant number of people than the abuser, himself.

It’s off-message, distracting and diminishes Tlaib, at least for a time.

You can bet leadership is going to put her on a short leash for awhile ... I doubt we’ll be seeing her doing a lot of appearances on behalf of House Dems for a time until they’re sure she can stick with the message - and that enough time has passed that impeachment isn’t the primary topic she’s asked to discuss ...

...I certainly hope and expect the sentiment in the Democratic Congress is to 'impeach the motherfucker."

Nancy Pelosi is smart enough not to put this new rep 'on a leash,' short or otherwise. That's just gross.

It's amazing what offends people. For instance, I'm offended by the notion that this representative for her district needs to 'stick with the message,' as if this representative doesn't have a right and responsibility to conduct herself as she sees fit.

That's a blind spot for a party which has appeared comfortable in the past with moderation and compromise with a opposition which is completely self-interested and corrupt. I expect Rashida Tlaib will articulate and advance the priorities which she campaigned on, and the party will be wise to accommodate her and her fellow freshman's energy and passion.

The country needs decency right now like an injured child needing salve and a hug. Plus, "impeach the mofo!" isn't exactly above the fray or inspiring.

What happened to leaders being leaders and setting better examples? Have we really forgotten Obama so quickly?

Calls a motherfucker a motherfucker and everyone loses their fucking mind.

I like her even more after this.

Do you really want to swim in trump's sewer?

I mean, seriously, she said "motherfucker." We're all adults here.

in a conversation, she called the turd in the oval office a motherfucker. And yes, I'm an adult and was just as disgusted when kanye said the exact same thing in the oval office. Are you seeing what the media is doing with this? Is that what we really wanted to be talking about today? Excusing this kind of crap?

How is calling him a "motherfucker" swimming in a sewer?

Words like that don't give me the vapors. Private prisons are much more offensive.

If it irritates the cons, then great!

I see no reason for anyone, anywhere to accept any bullshit morality instruction from anyone still in the Republican party. They've revealed they are willing to kill children to get power and money for themselves.

I don't see a thing wrong with her language.

It was a vulgar and inappropriate comment made in the excited heat of the moment, egged on and cheered by adoring supporters. Unfortunately, they weren’t the only ones who heard her. It detracted from an otherwise awesome and positive day for the new Members.

It was a mistake and I hope she learns from it. She’s now a U.S. Congresswoman, not a fringe back bencher. She must do better.

...he doesn't deserve the niceties, no more than any dangerous felon who is still perpetrating their violence and criminality does.

I hope the rest of our legislators 'learn from it,' and start treating this felonious presidency like the danger it represents for the country and the world.

Behaving like Trump isn’t the way to beat Trump.

I have a feeling she’s already gotten a good talking to about this by people she respects.

...the handwringing and finger-wagging coming from Democrats (?) is weak and self-loathing. Other criticisms from the right, which coincide (like it or not) are hilariously hypocritical.

No one should take heed of such timidity and navel-gazing nonsense. I'm glad to see the congresswoman ignore these politically useless, and politically timid criticisms of her remarks.

Rolling in the mud is Trump’s land of opportunity. Knowing him, she put a smile on his face with that word. Insulting him more specifically and profane-free would have been much more effective.

... curse at people I'd be fine with that.

He kidnaps kids from people seeking help and he's a traitor, more focus belongs on that then some 4 syllable words

Adjectives and adverbs are not causing the real harm to real people that this motherfucking evil regime is doing.

Jeezus. The Motherfucker says far worse than that on a daily basis, and the media is silent. Instead, they're making an issue out of this??? Fuck 'em all.

It WAS inappropriate, not to mention off-message.

But I think she learned that now that she’s a national figure, she has to assume that anything she says outside of her own home in the presence of her family and most trusted friends could be made public ... She can no longer talk to a room full of people as if she’s riffing with a couple of good friends in private.

She didn't say it on the House floor. I'll save my outrage for the truly vulgar things, like locking children in cages, tear-gassing refugees, and throwing tantrums that shut down the government, cutting people off of their livlihoods. I don't give a shit that a Congresswoman called a motherfucker "motherfucker" at a rally with her supporters. And, if she was white and male, we wouldn't even be discussing this.

And we should impeach him, his family and every one of his enablers.

Fuck ‘em all.

But there’s a time, place, method and strategy for talking about it. I’m sure that a brand new Congresswoman about 430th in seniority blurting “we’re gonna impeach the motherfucker” into an open mic on the first day of Dems in control wasn’t part of the plan. And it didn’t make impeachment any more likely than it was yesterday morning.

Frankly I don’t think our party has been angry enough.

The -ex r’s like Schmidt and Wilson are far better at vocalizing the collective dismay and angst of sane people. We could and should take a lesson from them.

But I do accept the point you've been making in these threads.

I think some Pelosi-style Velvet Glove/Iron Fist is bound to rub off.

And fairly quickly.

...You beat me to it. Fuck that fucking fuck...

Specifically - What do we win? Do we get an additional vote for impeachment? Do we make it easier to dig into his finances? Does Mueller get an additional indictment? Do we gain any more votes for a Democratic presidential candidate in 2020?

she's a Congresswoman now and whatever she may call him in private, bare civility is called for. She's better than him and her public words need to reflect that. Also, a big focus today is on the Congresswoman who said the 'bad' word.

He did.

Fuck him and his enablers. Fuck all the koolaid drinkers. This is an existential crisis.

If you're more comfortable in a 'high road' place please stay there. Let the fighters fight.

I, for one, am happy to fight for the soul of the republic.

of the republic."

The real fight is taking place much more quietly, strategically and effectively. And the people leading it don't think selling wolf-tickets about it advances the fight at all.

While people are noting this, they're NOT talking about what Speaker Pelosi said after taking control of the house. Brandeis's quote is one of my favorites, so I sat right up when I heard this from HER speech opening this session of congress: We can't have democracy AND have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. Wow!

How dare you not condemn the mouth noises and instead point to the pent-up outrageousness that leads many to utter those noises!

Sometimes it takes a shock to get people to focus on harm that is in danger of being normalized.

should be enough of a shock to wake people up, including those who have no idea how committed to democracy, the real thing, and progressivism in government she is. Not that she said it that bluntly, but our grandparents did it before us, and that's what that quote means. Kinda big.

The RWers apparently wanted to discredit our new Representatives very early. The backfire is that it gets them more attention, so they get their views aired, and gets more attention for the more experienced Reps, so their views also get aired, and all those views have a common basis -- the Democratic Party platform. Oh, the horror!



The billionaire class has been fed by Republicans at the expense of everyone else since Reagan. It's time to stop voodoo economics.

Actblue has become a big weapon against mega-donors, in spite of Citizens United.

"We win more every time he is called names"

I simply don't think anyone calling trump a name, any name, is going to trigger me.

"Impeach the Motherfucker."

When Brian -of all People - Williams is crowing about how he "Speaks Truth to Power" you know that the phrase is cheapened and reduced to nonsense syllables.

I'd like to give this one back to the Quakers and Civil Rights Workers.

It shouldn't just be a synonym for "clapback", "shit-talk" or "run of the mill-reporting".

...and this legislator's pledge to hold the president accountable, including moving to the process of impeachment, it doesn't cheapen a thing. It's a call to arms, no matter how profane.

All of the tut-tutting cheapens the message, imo.

call me shocked.. GTFOH