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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:22 PM Jan 2019

The Atlantic: What the President Could Do If He Declares a State of Emergency

From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—he is able to set aside many of the legal limits on his authority.

In the weeks leading up to the 2018 midterm elections, President Donald Trump reached deep into his arsenal to try to deliver votes to Republicans.

Most of his weapons were rhetorical, featuring a mix of lies and false inducements—claims that every congressional Democrat had signed on to an “open borders” bill (none had), that liberals were fomenting violent “mobs” (they weren’t), that a 10 percent tax cut for the middle class would somehow pass while Congress was out of session (it didn’t). But a few involved the aggressive use—and threatened misuse—of presidential authority: He sent thousands of active-duty soldiers to the southern border to terrorize a distant caravan of desperate Central American migrants, announced plans to end the constitutional guarantee of birthright citizenship by executive order, and tweeted that law enforcement had been “strongly notified” to be on the lookout for “ILLEGAL VOTING.”

These measures failed to carry the day, and Trump will likely conclude that they were too timid. How much further might he go in 2020, when his own name is on the ballot—or sooner than that, if he’s facing impeachment by a House under Democratic control. More is at stake here than the outcome of one or even two elections. Trump has long signaled his disdain for the concepts of limited presidential power and democratic rule. During his 2016 campaign, he praised murderous dictators. He declared that his opponent, Hillary Clinton, would be in jail if he were president, goading crowds into frenzied chants of “Lock her up.” He hinted that he might not accept an electoral loss. As democracies around the world slide into autocracy, and nationalism and antidemocratic sentiment are on vivid display among segments of the American populace, Trump’s evident hostility to key elements of liberal democracy cannot be dismissed as mere bluster.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/


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The Atlantic: What the President Could Do If He Declares a State of Emergency (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jan 2019 OP
This article is a must read. dalton99a Jan 2019 #1
Very important! Thank you empedocles Jan 2019 #2
Any such order would be subject to challenge in court pecosbob Jan 2019 #3
unlikely AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #8
I think that would be the end of him, very quickly. sunonmars Jan 2019 #4
This scares the daylights out of me Charlotte Little Jan 2019 #5
remember -- they always project Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #16
Time to gird our loins for the long fight lunatica Jan 2019 #6
Not to mention, the economic ramifications would probably get him removed quick. sunonmars Jan 2019 #7
There would be a run on banks and the economy would collapse Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #9
Which is what he and his Bettie Jan 2019 #12
True. Ruin economy and recreate it in your own image Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #13
Thanks. Great post! RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2019 #10
Truly a terrifying article. sinkingfeeling Jan 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #14
he is an unhinged threat to the world Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #15

dalton99a

(81,478 posts)
1. This article is a must read.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:28 PM
Jan 2019
Unknown to most Americans, a parallel legal regime allows the president to sidestep many of the constraints that normally apply. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power. For instance, the president can, with the flick of his pen, activate laws allowing him to shut down many kinds of electronic communications inside the United States or freeze Americans’ bank accounts. Other powers are available even without a declaration of emergency, including laws that allow the president to deploy troops inside the country to subdue domestic unrest.

This edifice of extraordinary powers has historically rested on the assumption that the president will act in the country’s best interest when using them. With a handful of noteworthy exceptions, this assumption has held up. But what if a president, backed into a corner and facing electoral defeat or impeachment, were to declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power? In that scenario, our laws and institutions might not save us from a presidential power grab. They might be what takes us down.


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AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
8. unlikely
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:49 PM
Jan 2019

it appears only congress will have power over president in case of declared emergency. Courts decisions will not be enforceable during emergency.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
5. This scares the daylights out of me
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jan 2019

All those years that the conspiracy nuts claimed Obama was going to call martial law and here we are - with an actual madman in office who may very well do it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
16. remember -- they always project
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:08 PM
Jan 2019

It has been the RW method for a very long time; they accuse everyone else of what they have done or intend to do.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
7. Not to mention, the economic ramifications would probably get him removed quick.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:47 PM
Jan 2019

The stock market would go through the floor. Not to mention the civil unrest.

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Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
15. he is an unhinged threat to the world
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jan 2019

Hopefully, impeachment can be put off until some investigations are complete.

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