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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:29 PM Jan 2019

Biden likely to make decision on 2020 run within next two weeks: report

Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) is likely to make a decision on whether he will run for the presidency in 2020 within the next two weeks, according to a New York Times report.

Biden has reportedly told those close to him that he does not feel other potential Democratic presidential contenders could beat President Trump

One Democrat he spoke to recently told the Times that Biden during a phone call said, “If you can persuade me there is somebody better who can win, I’m happy not to do it. But I don’t see the candidate who can clearly do what has to be done to win."

The former vice president during an appearance in Montana last month said that he believes he is "the most qualified person in the country to be president. I’ve been doing this my whole adult life, and the issues that are the most consequential relating to the plight of the middle class and our foreign policy are things that I have — even my critics would acknowledge, I may not be right, but I know a great deal about it,” he said, according to CNN

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/424096-biden-likely-to-make-decision-on-2020-run-within-next-two-weeks-report

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Biden likely to make decision on 2020 run within next two weeks: report (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 OP
So Joe is running then. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #1
My guess? Only if Sanders runs. Biden will demolish him /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #25
Most qualified is still HRC n/t violetpastille Jan 2019 #2
A few months back ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2019 #7
Then Avenatti! violetpastille Jan 2019 #9
Those people were wrong.. Oprah is great but Cha Jan 2019 #37
Yes, she is lunamagica Jan 2019 #60
I would argue that Biden, Kerry, and Gore are easily equivilent to HRC in experience karynnj Jan 2019 #69
I hope he realizes that his habit of nuzzling girls and women is bound to haunt him pnwmom Jan 2019 #3
+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #4
Senator Sanders is more of a gaffe maschine than Biden ever was emulatorloo Jan 2019 #15
No argument from me! violetpastille Jan 2019 #18
I think so.. lots of them, and those haven't been Cha Jan 2019 #38
Might be an asset; a majority of white women voted for a "pussy grabber" /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #13
It won't be among Democratic women, and our nominee will need a massive turnout among Democrats. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #21
I don't honetly believe it will even be an issue. /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #23
Spoken like a man. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #24
It'll definitely be an issue BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #26
Agreed /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #27
When they start making ads with photos of Joe Biden nuzzling his nose into the nape of women's necks pnwmom Jan 2019 #61
I know you want it to be disqualifying but there's little evidence it will be. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #62
Except the photos and videos of the girls and women wincing. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #63
Yeah. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #64
Worse when Anita Hill is factored in. dogman Jan 2019 #66
Right. But some here want to dismiss that as a mistake of his youth. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #67
If they had stopped there maybe. dogman Jan 2019 #68
The problem is, Joe is wrong. He's more than right. Autumn Jan 2019 #5
+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #10
+1 emulatorloo Jan 2019 #17
I'm not supporting anyone yet, but that's a good point. He could reverse the Hoyt Jan 2019 #28
Joe, by FAR, is the most highly qualified potential candidate, given his 8 years as VP... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #52
Yes he is the most qualified. I'll wait and see where he stand on the issues, Autumn Jan 2019 #53
Climate change is gonna be a HUGE issue for me... will be interested to see where Joe InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #55
It is for me, that's why I'm paying close attention to Inslee. I need to see what they Autumn Jan 2019 #59
just say no, joe nt msongs Jan 2019 #6
I welcome him into the fray. Cha Jan 2019 #39
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #8
Joe and Bernie, please don't. Thank you. UTUSN Jan 2019 #11
100% Freddie Jan 2019 #14
Nov 2020 - Battle of the septuagenarian titans? dalton99a Jan 2019 #33
You know it!1 UTUSN Jan 2019 #34
In my view he is the most qualified with the most experience of the potential candidates, still_one Jan 2019 #12
Democrat! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #16
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #19
There are plenty of valid reasons why one could argue not to want Biden, but ego isn't one of them. still_one Jan 2019 #20
Biden's "ego"? Good Grief.. where do they Cha Jan 2019 #40
I know Cha. still_one Jan 2019 #49
He's smart, qualified and highly problematic. That's a no from me. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #22
Everybody loves Biden. But... lindysalsagal Jan 2019 #29
Actually, it looks like he does quite well with younger voters: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #30
Then by all means, convince someone like O'Rourke to join him as VP. pecosbob Jan 2019 #35
Sounds good at this point. Cha Jan 2019 #41
In any case a choice of O'Rourke as VP only surrenders a House seat. pecosbob Jan 2019 #43
Beto already gave up his Cha Jan 2019 #44
Okay...I know more than I did yesterday... pecosbob Jan 2019 #45
Always learning.. I should have Cha Jan 2019 #47
Well, then, it's settled! :) /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #46
lol How Cha Jan 2019 #48
Biden's message of strong support for the middle class/working class will be a good thing pecosbob Jan 2019 #31
NYT-Joe Biden sees himself as the Democrats' best hope for 2020 Gothmog Jan 2019 #32
Biden looks really good, strong, and healthy.. Cha Jan 2019 #42
Yes, Joe wouldve matched up better vs The Dotard & prolly wuda beat his azz, taking PA, MI & WI. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #54
I'm in a catch-22 with Biden. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2019 #36
Your analysis is quite reasonable. I think whoever our nominee is, the VP choice will be critical, still_one Jan 2019 #50
VP choices are always critical, as we've seen recently... Joe certainly helped in that regard. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #56
Definitely. More so than it had been in the past as you pointed out still_one Jan 2019 #57
I hope he runs. Turbineguy Jan 2019 #51
It would take infinite luck - as the Republicans would not impeach both Pence and Trump karynnj Jan 2019 #70
I will gladly support Joe Biden handmade34 Jan 2019 #58
After Trump, anybody is better than Trump, and I do mean everybody. sunonmars Jan 2019 #65

Cha

(297,192 posts)
37. Those people were wrong.. Oprah is great but
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:04 AM
Jan 2019

not qualified.

violetpastille knows what she's talking about.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
69. I would argue that Biden, Kerry, and Gore are easily equivilent to HRC in experience
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jan 2019

All of them had at least 4 years in a Presidential cabinet and all three of them were in the Senate longer and acheived more there.

Not to mention, of the three, the one easiest to attack on management skills is Hillary.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
3. I hope he realizes that his habit of nuzzling girls and women is bound to haunt him
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jan 2019

in this MeToo era. I'm sure he didn't mean anything wrong by his behavior, but some of the girls and women involved look so uncomfortable.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, google Biden, women, nuzzle.

The ads have already made themselves.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
4. +1
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jan 2019

And the "gaffes".

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."


"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."



ETA: Still a million times better than the best Republican.

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
15. Senator Sanders is more of a gaffe maschine than Biden ever was
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jan 2019

“I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American,”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/bernie-sanders-lots-of-not-necessarily-racist-whites-uncomfortable-voting-for-african-americans-gillum-abrams/

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
18. No argument from me!
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:57 PM
Jan 2019

I must confess I just auto-trashed all the Bernie threads. Otherwise I'd be right in there with you.

Cha

(297,192 posts)
38. I think so.. lots of them, and those haven't been
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:06 AM
Jan 2019

blasted yet.

“I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American,”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/bernie-sanders-lots-of-not-necessarily-racist-whites-uncomfortable-voting-for-african-americans-gillum-abrams/

Mahalo, emulatorloo

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
21. It won't be among Democratic women, and our nominee will need a massive turnout among Democrats. n/t
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jan 2019

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
26. It'll definitely be an issue
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jan 2019

For people who live in 1991. For those that don't, for those that can look around at the current state of affairs, it will not be.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
61. When they start making ads with photos of Joe Biden nuzzling his nose into the nape of women's necks
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jan 2019

or holding little girls faces and kissing their foreheads -- ads that show the women and girls looking uncomfortable, it will have an impact.

People dismiss it by saying -- truthfully -- that he doesn't have any bad intentions. That is true -- he doesn't.

But he clearly has made some women and girls uncomfortable. And in the MeToo era, that will be have a negative impact.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
5. The problem is, Joe is wrong. He's more than right.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jan 2019

There is probably not a single person discussing a run who would know as much about our foreign policy as Biden does and he has the credibility to fix what Trump has destroyed.

"he is the most qualified person in the country to be president. I’ve been doing this my whole adult life, and the issues that are the most consequential relating to the plight of the middle class and our foreign policy are things that I have — even my critics would acknowledge, I may not be right, but I know a great deal about it,”


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. I'm not supporting anyone yet, but that's a good point. He could reverse the
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jan 2019

international mess trump has created with a few phone calls abroad, allowing him to move to other pressing issues here.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
52. Joe, by FAR, is the most highly qualified potential candidate, given his 8 years as VP...
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:15 AM
Jan 2019

coupled with his Congressional experience, notably as it relates to foreign affairs. The only question for me is whether he's right on the ISSUES, as compared to other potential candidates, as THAT'S what will decide if the Lil Shroom Dick-tator can be beaten (no pun intended).

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
53. Yes he is the most qualified. I'll wait and see where he stand on the issues,
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:22 AM
Jan 2019

foreign affairs are not my top priority. Once Trump is gone Dems can easily repair all the problems motherfucker has created with our allies and craft new foreign policy. Right now Jay Inslee is hitting the right button with me on climate change.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
55. Climate change is gonna be a HUGE issue for me... will be interested to see where Joe
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:28 AM
Jan 2019

stands on the Green New Deal and not just whether he supports it... but rather, whether he endorses it as enthusiastically as some of our leaders on this issue do.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
59. It is for me, that's why I'm paying close attention to Inslee. I need to see what they
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jan 2019

think the priorities are. Joe was great as Obama VP and I want to see what he is on his own, unfettered.

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

still_one

(92,187 posts)
12. In my view he is the most qualified with the most experience of the potential candidates,
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jan 2019

and we all know the personal tragedy why he didn't run in 2016, and because of that, I won't jump on him for his speculation that he could have beaten trump in 2016.

At this time I personally would like to see him as our nominee in 2020 for multiple reasons, however, if he decides not to run, I don't want to hear the bullshit how he could have beaten trump, or whoever the republicans choose for their nominee, which will probably be trump. Either he puts up or shuts up. You run or you don't, but please don't complain about how you shoulda or coulda if you decide not to run





Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

still_one

(92,187 posts)
20. There are plenty of valid reasons why one could argue not to want Biden, but ego isn't one of them.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jan 2019

There isn't anyone who is running for President who doesn't have an ego

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
29. Everybody loves Biden. But...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:46 PM
Jan 2019

We need a gotv candidate. I'm afraid it's not one of the old guard.

Sure, he'd be a great president, but he won't get the young vote.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
30. Actually, it looks like he does quite well with younger voters:
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jan 2019

"Biden gets an 84 - 7 percent favorability rating among Democrats and a 60 - 21 percent rating among voters 18 to 34 years old."

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2591

Cha

(297,192 posts)
47. Always learning.. I should have
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:33 AM
Jan 2019

said "maybe" he's a leader in search of an office. Nothing's for sure.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
31. Biden's message of strong support for the middle class/working class will be a good thing
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jan 2019

alongside Warren's fiscal sense and both will deter the Problem-Solver types from throwing a hat in the ring. Come a Dem or go home...

For those looking for flawless candidates, there is no such thing...if there were the right would try somehow make that a liability.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
32. NYT-Joe Biden sees himself as the Democrats' best hope for 2020
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:56 PM
Jan 2019

We are blessed to have a number of great candidates. I have a soft place in my heart for Joe. I brought back a number of signs used during the National Convention and my son grabbed one of the Joe's signs. I took one for myself and the other delegate to the convention grabbed the last one. I believe that Joe would probably matched up best with trump


InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
54. Yes, Joe wouldve matched up better vs The Dotard & prolly wuda beat his azz, taking PA, MI & WI.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:24 AM
Jan 2019

And Joe is the most qualified candidate, but, with a crowded field, his stance on specific issues will be highlighted... don't know if he'll have as much of an easier time of it, especially with his having been years removed from the Obama administration.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
36. I'm in a catch-22 with Biden.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:55 AM
Jan 2019

What I'd really like to see out of Biden is a running mate who could complement his flaws. I'm not going to get that in a primary.

The bottom line is that he's really not my first choice in the primary, but he's on the short list who could make me indecently happy with my choice in the general. It's weird, I admit.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
50. Your analysis is quite reasonable. I think whoever our nominee is, the VP choice will be critical,
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:51 AM
Jan 2019

and you need someone to complement the weakness of whoever the Democratic nominee is.


karynnj

(59,503 posts)
70. It would take infinite luck - as the Republicans would not impeach both Pence and Trump
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:16 PM
Jan 2019

unless there was a sequence as there was with Nixon/Agnew.

IF, she IS President then, She would run for re-election!

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