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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:06 AM Jan 2019

Trump's political 'crisis' over border wall may soon turn into a real one

By Jacqueline Alemany
January 7 at 5:54 AM

At the White House

HOW TO MANUFACTURE A CRISIS: Partially shut down the government. Issue alarmist tweets. Hold impromptu news conferences in the Rose Garden. Neuter the bargaining power of your closest, most senior advisers. Misrepresent the facts. Publicly mull declaring a national emergency. And threaten to keep some federal employees from receiving their paycheck for months — maybe even years.

These are the ingredients of what Trump has dubbed a “national emergency” over his splashy campaign vow to build a wall along the southern border — “the material embodiment of his keep-them-out immigration agenda.” But what happens when the “crisis” gives way to a real one?

Come Jan. 11th: 800,000 federal employees will miss their first paycheck if the shutdown isn't resolved, The Post's Damian Paletta and Erica Werner report.

Starting in February: “Food stamps for 38 million low-income Americans would face severe reductions and more than $140 billion in tax refunds are at risk of being frozen or delayed if the government shutdown stretches into February, widespread disruptions that threaten to hurt the economy,” per Paletta and Werner.

GDP: “Joseph Brusuelas, chief economist at RMS U.S., an accounting and consulting firm, said a prolonged shutdown would shave an entire percentage point off the U.S.’s economic growth, in part because of an 'uncertainty tax' that would freeze spending by households and businesses,” per The Post.

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Trump's political 'crisis' over border wall may soon turn into a real one (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP

Exactly!! bluestarone Jan 2019 #1

They want to ignore and if possible go around the House of Representatives. gordianot Jan 2019 #2

Perhaps his last big play pandr32 Jan 2019 #3

Trump causes more harm than a million migrants - legal or not Mountain Mule Jan 2019 #4

So then this Wednesday millions of retireee's will be awaiting their Social Security check INdemo Jan 2019 #5

I believe that SS comes out of a different pocket, Stonepounder Jan 2019 #6

Yes i understand but you know Soc Security and Medicare is the INdemo Jan 2019 #12

I know that. I also know that it is complete bullshit, Stonepounder Jan 2019 #16

It doesn't affect Social Security, watoos Jan 2019 #7

Speaker Pelosi has it covered. watoos Jan 2019 #8

45 has some odd twisted personality disorder that makes him enjoy putting others through misery Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #9

A US crisis pleases Putin. Mc Mike Jan 2019 #10

No matter what the orange hitler does or says, I don't see a full blown shutdown happening mastermind Jan 2019 #11

My dear mother-in-law imagined threats around her Marthe48 Jan 2019 #13

Again....Naomi Klein's formula: Thunderbeast Jan 2019 #14

Mushroom clouds!!!!!! moondust Jan 2019 #15

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)

1. Exactly!!

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:09 AM

Jan 2019

The game plan could be CREATE a National Emergency!! That's their style!!!

gordianot

(15,238 posts)

2. They want to ignore and if possible go around the House of Representatives.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:19 AM

Jan 2019

This is a manufactured coup in plain sight.

pandr32

(11,583 posts)

3. Perhaps his last big play

Reply to gordianot (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:33 PM

Jan 2019

He's going for broke here.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)

4. Trump causes more harm than a million migrants - legal or not

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 12:52 PM

Jan 2019

Trump has brought serious harm to so many segments of the people of this country and threatens us with more if we or our REAL elected representatives dare protest his actions. How long before an actual civil war if he continues to pull the country down the road toward destruction of our values, never mind our people?

INdemo

(6,994 posts)

5. So then this Wednesday millions of retireee's will be awaiting their Social Security check

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:01 PM

Jan 2019

it wont be there unless Trumps tantrum stops? Is this correct

This will include the 2nd Wed. the 3rd Wed and 4th unless this idiot backs down.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)

6. I believe that SS comes out of a different pocket,

Reply to INdemo (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:24 PM

Jan 2019

does not need Congressional approval, and is not part of the Federal budget so cannot be held hostage to tRump's temper tantrum.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)

12. Yes i understand but you know Soc Security and Medicare is the

Reply to Stonepounder (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:38 PM

Jan 2019

first thing on the table when Republicans talk about budget cuts

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)

16. I know that. I also know that it is complete bullshit,

Reply to INdemo (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:22 PM

Jan 2019

since SS and Medicare is NOT part of the Federal budget and funds itself. However, the GOP 'borrowed' all of the actual money from the Social Security Administration and replaced it with Special Gov't Bonds (which they now refer to as 'worthless IOU's). What they really want to do is let Wall Street administer Social Security giving Stock Brokers all that cash to play with.

And they couldn't do it when they had control of the House, Senate, and that slum where the tRump is forced to live.

watoos

(7,142 posts)

7. It doesn't affect Social Security,

Reply to INdemo (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:24 PM

Jan 2019

watoos

(7,142 posts)

8. Speaker Pelosi has it covered.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:27 PM

Jan 2019

She is breaking up the government into smaller bills. One of the first bills she is going to pass in the House is to reopen the IRS so that people get their refunds on time. Does McConnell have the guts to not bring that bill up? Does Trump have the guts to veto that bill?

Speaker Pelosi has the traitors by the balls.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)

9. 45 has some odd twisted personality disorder that makes him enjoy putting others through misery

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:28 PM

Jan 2019

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)

10. A US crisis pleases Putin.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:35 PM

Jan 2019

mastermind

(229 posts)

11. No matter what the orange hitler does or says, I don't see a full blown shutdown happening

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:36 PM

Jan 2019

and the partial shutdown will run out of steam soon.

Marthe48

(16,957 posts)

13. My dear mother-in-law imagined threats around her

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:56 PM

Jan 2019

but she had dementia. Our family decided that skilled nursing was best for her.

Given that trump is imagining threats and is acting dangerously, I think its time to put him in a nursing home with people who can calm him down.

Thunderbeast

(3,408 posts)

14. Again....Naomi Klein's formula:

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:59 PM

Jan 2019

It's all in "The Shock Doctrine".

1. Create a national emergency. (Bundestag fire?)

2. Declare a national emergency.

3. Assume emergency powers (martial law) to address.

4. Weaken or dissolve institutions. (opposition, courts, press)

5. STEAL THE MONEY!

moondust

(19,981 posts)

15. Mushroom clouds!!!!!!

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 02:11 PM

Jan 2019

2002 all over again. Will this "crisis" also end up costing a trillion $$$ after Drumpf invades several Latin American countries to "stop emigration" and seize payment for his wall?

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