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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:38 PM Jan 2019

TV exec texts: "He calls us fake news all the time, but needs access to airwaves... If we give him the

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Brian Stelter Verified account @brianstelter
37m37 minutes ago

I'm waiting to hear back from ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox broadcast about whether they will carry Trump's prime time address tomorrow night. The networks don't automatically say yes when a president asks for airtime.
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Brian Stelter
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31m31 minutes ago

This just in from a network source: "Time has been requested tomorrow night for 9p. Networks are deliberating."
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Brian Stelter
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12m12 minutes ago

TV exec texts: "He calls us fake news all the time, but needs access to airwaves… If we give him the time, he'll deliver a fact-free screed without rebuttal. And if we don't give him the time, he'll call every network partisan. So we are damned if we do and damned if we don't."
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Scott Dworkin
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38m38 minutes ago

Trump plans on giving an address on his manufactured border crisis tomorrow night at 9pm. Retweet if you won’t be watching and reply with what you’ll be doing instead. #DontWatchDonald

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TV exec texts: "He calls us fake news all the time, but needs access to airwaves... If we give him the (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2019 OP
Y'all made this mess and now you're crying about how the monster you created is a monster... pecosbob Jan 2019 #1
Very well put Perseus Jan 2019 #48
fact check the fucker on the air... dhill926 Jan 2019 #2
better yet, give him NO air time Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #23
5-10 sec of bloviating, hit mute and follow with 20-30 seconds of facts. erronis Jan 2019 #43
Have a split screen with the facts immediately appearing as soon as he lies. fierywoman Jan 2019 #51
Until he shuts his so-ugly orange assmouth, I will be watching anything other than him. lark Jan 2019 #3
No doubt ... I will turn him off. erlewyne Jan 2019 #46
Pre-empting Rachel's program, also Sean Hannity's FakeNoose Jan 2019 #4
I don't think they need to preempt cable. Renew Deal Jan 2019 #6
They should give him the time Renew Deal Jan 2019 #5
He's got time SoCalNative Jan 2019 #10
I get your point Renew Deal Jan 2019 #12
they already have Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #24
"so we might as well do whatever makes us the most money and to hell with the country." unblock Jan 2019 #7
If it's me Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2019 #8
Simple. Live fact check the speech. C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #9
"So we are damned if we do and damned if we don't."You built this Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #11
I will NOT watch Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #13
On the one hand, what's best for the nation, on the other, Trump will name-call gratuitous Jan 2019 #14
The networks turned Obama down in 2014. They can damn well do the same with Trump octoberlib Jan 2019 #15
Hey, TV Exec! PJMcK Jan 2019 #16
Simple solution NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #17
Oooh, I like that idea...nt 2naSalit Jan 2019 #31
I like a 5 min delay BUT bluestarone Jan 2019 #40
Fox wouldn't do that NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #49
This is the best idea! renate Jan 2019 #55
Facts??? bdamomma Jan 2019 #59
They should all follow up with fact checking and analysis. Only dealing with his address. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #18
Trouble with waiting until the end to fact check, and a crawl at the bottom--- erronis Jan 2019 #44
They are not significant in the matter. NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #62
Just roll over, air it and cut the BS durablend Jan 2019 #19
I'm boycotting. Will.Not.Watch. Every Democrat should boycott. stuffmatters Jan 2019 #20
Run split sreen... UpInArms Jan 2019 #21
I prob. will not watch. But if networks do show Trump--you have a great idea. riversedge Jan 2019 #22
They can even do a time delay UpInArms Jan 2019 #34
What a bunch of self-serving bullshit Maven Jan 2019 #25
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. So make the right decision. DON'T Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #26
Exactly. 2naSalit Jan 2019 #32
So what if he call network partisan. He does so anyways. clutterbox1830 Jan 2019 #27
They shouldn't do it! duforsure Jan 2019 #28
They have their YouTube channel - they can broadcast it live there. hexola Jan 2019 #29
Give Nancy Pelosi equal time. She'll eat his lunch. nolabear Jan 2019 #30
Perfect, nolabear. Hekate Jan 2019 #33
those of you who know twitter ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #35
Everybody watch Big Bang reruns until he's done, then switch to Rachel Fiendish Thingy Jan 2019 #36
They should run a scroll stating to their viewers if they want to watch it go to PBS or something. boston bean Jan 2019 #37
"It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." - Les Moonves when he was CBS CEO PSPS Jan 2019 #38
Moonves is out True Blue American Jan 2019 #50
What don't you understand? smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #39
he's already tweeted a lie about it....four hours ago spanone Jan 2019 #41
At 8 p.m. Eastern, the networks could put on Pelosi and Schumer to put out a little truth before the Liberal In Texas Jan 2019 #42
Lucky me I don't own a TV, and I won't listen to his voice. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #45
Hey Brian shadowmayor Jan 2019 #47
fact check please scarytomcat Jan 2019 #52
It has recently been revealed that Trump is a mofo. lpbk2713 Jan 2019 #53
Sorry, I'm going to see On the Basis of Sex tomorrow night! So there. eom Ink Addict Jan 2019 #54
what BS. Why are they worried about him being mean to them ? JI7 Jan 2019 #56
... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #57
Boycott the dotard muthafucka. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #58
I never watch that liar. Talitha Jan 2019 #60
I hope MSNBC doesn't air it. blueinredohio Jan 2019 #61
***SO JUST DO THE RIGHT DAMN THING !!! *** and don't give him any air time !!! uponit7771 Jan 2019 #63
This kind of shit is designed for Fox. Let them continue as the sole water-carrier. VOX Jan 2019 #64
that makes sense Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #65
Precisely. Let Fox breathe the sulfurous stench, as usual. VOX Jan 2019 #66
#BoycottTrumpsAddress is 'trending' Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #67

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
1. Y'all made this mess and now you're crying about how the monster you created is a monster...
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jan 2019

If you want to do something constructive give Trump's critics free air time afterward to rebut.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
48. Very well put
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:38 PM
Jan 2019

Someone get your answer to the networks.

Also, they can fact-check as he speaks, on the bottom of the screen make a count of his lies.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
23. better yet, give him NO air time
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jan 2019

Tell tv execs and advertisers you are tired of paying for a liar to have a national megaphone.

Trump's lies cause millions to suffer.

Turn them off.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
43. 5-10 sec of bloviating, hit mute and follow with 20-30 seconds of facts.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jan 2019

Don't give it an uninterrupted channel for spewing.

(I don't know why I care - don't have t.v. for the last 10-15 years. Wasteland.)

lark

(23,097 posts)
3. Until he shuts his so-ugly orange assmouth, I will be watching anything other than him.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:42 PM
Jan 2019

Will still watch tv, to make the point, but won't watch him - never do, he's too sickening. When he's shut up, I'll turn on MSNBC & or CNN to see what happened, to see if our constitutional democracy is now in total crisis.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
46. No doubt ... I will turn him off.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:35 PM
Jan 2019

Not only is he a liar, he repeats himself over and again.

He is a moron. I am astounded at the assholes around me
that defend him. I have become home bond,

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
5. They should give him the time
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jan 2019

You don't want to go down the road of deciding which address is worthwhile. Obviously they don't want it to become a weekly thing, but there is no reason to believe that right now.

Fact check live or fact check after.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
12. I get your point
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jan 2019

It makes a lot of sense to me. But I don't want networks denying time to a Democratic president because they denied Trump time. That's what will happen.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
24. they already have
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jan 2019

TV execs always chase the money. Broadcasters even denied coverage of Obama for the Cuba announcement -- didn't interrupt the soap operas.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
7. "so we might as well do whatever makes us the most money and to hell with the country."
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:44 PM
Jan 2019

if the president calls the networks partisan, they can respond to *that* as well.
they're only "damned" either way if they allow themselves to be.

if, when the president calls them "partisan", they simply respond that they don't give unlimited airtime to flagrant, chronic, toxic liars regardless of party, then how are they "damned"?

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,571 posts)
8. If it's me
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

Mr. TV Exec, I'd rather you be damned if you don't...…… no air time will really get under his skin. And I am ok with that.

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
9. Simple. Live fact check the speech.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:51 PM
Jan 2019

Like Pop-Up Videos... an animated emoji would pop up (ka-doinnnggg) every time the Dumbass lies, with a banner proclaiming ‘He’s lying!” and a brief antidote of actual fact. After three lies, the feed would be cut.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
13. I will NOT watch
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:54 PM
Jan 2019

Piss on the networks as they have pissed on us.

Piss on their advertisers, who care only about extracting more.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. On the one hand, what's best for the nation, on the other, Trump will name-call
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019

That is indeed a tough decision, boys.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
15. The networks turned Obama down in 2014. They can damn well do the same with Trump
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019




When Obama tried to address the nation about a comprehensive immigration reform proposal in 2014, all the broadcast networks turned him down because it was "overtly political." https://www.politico.com/tipsheets/playbook/2014/11/why-the-nets-stiffed-

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
16. Hey, TV Exec!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jan 2019

No airtime for the congenital liar.

If he calls you partisan, so what? So you'd be "damned?" What the hell does that even mean?

Or give him the time but fact check him on everything he says. And give a prominent Democrat equal time to reply.

Grow up, you big babies. You get paid a lot of money to control what Americans see on TV. Please tell me you're not afraid of being called a name.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. Simple solution
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jan 2019

Put him on a 1 or 2 minute delay - and have three or four rotating teams of fact checkers ready to go with fact checking and they can post rebuttals "live" as Donny is spewing his BS.

renate

(13,776 posts)
55. This is the best idea!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:06 PM
Jan 2019

I thought it would be impossible to fact check him as he goes because it’d be like trying to describe in real time all the different kinds of chunks that come out in a violently ill person’s vomit, but your idea of a delay would be a big help.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
18. They should all follow up with fact checking and analysis. Only dealing with his address.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jan 2019

They should have a crawl at the bottom of the screen letting the viewers know that they only promote real news therefore they will be delivering a detailed fact check of his message immediately after.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
44. Trouble with waiting until the end to fact check, and a crawl at the bottom---
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:30 PM
Jan 2019

Most of his ardents will change the channel once he's finished his little spout, except for those that watch fux. Or is that all of them?

And they don't read those funny squiggles (words) at the bottom of their screen-thing.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
20. I'm boycotting. Will.Not.Watch. Every Democrat should boycott.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jan 2019

We already have seen his hateful lying anti immigrant, anti Democrats commercial. Why support more of his Pravda by watching this.
If the MSM won't stop airing his lies & hate, our job as Americans is to press off.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
25. What a bunch of self-serving bullshit
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jan 2019

"He'll call us partisan"

Really? Oh noes! How will you survive?

"We're damned if we do and damned if we don't"

No you aren't. Refusing to air the partisan screed of a habitual liar and disinformation agent doesn't damn you. Spreading his propaganda with some limp fact-checking after the damage is done -- that is what damns you.

But let's be honest, okay? The only "damnation" you're worried about is lost ratings. That's all you've ever cared about, nation be damned.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
27. So what if he call network partisan. He does so anyways.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:32 PM
Jan 2019

I don't see why they give in to his demands. He give these networks nothing and treats you like dirt anyways.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. They shouldn't do it!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jan 2019

Knowing its propaganda for another PR stunt to promote false things, then claiming a false National emergency. Its not , and he knows it , and is why this shouldn't be aired , ever by any of them. If they do he'll just use them as a weapon against us.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
29. They have their YouTube channel - they can broadcast it live there.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jan 2019

He does not need a captive audience.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
35. those of you who know twitter ...
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

The OP appears to be tweets. Can twitter be used to push back against tv execs giving even more time to the serial liar? Start a tweetstorm or whatever it's called. NO to the liar.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
36. Everybody watch Big Bang reruns until he's done, then switch to Rachel
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

Nielsen should pick that up that change in viewership...

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
38. "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." - Les Moonves when he was CBS CEO
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jan 2019

"So we are damned if we do and damned if we don't" only means "we'll choose whatever makes us the most money."

Here's an idea: Broadcast it on a time delay and then pause it to show what the real facts are after each lie. Or, better yet, just superimpose "LYING" every time he lies. Don't worry about viewers getting the word permanently burned on their TV screens. They don't use phosphorous on modern TV screens.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. What don't you understand?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jan 2019

He is fucking insane! Why would you give someone like this a platform? For once, behave responsibly!

spanone

(135,830 posts)
41. he's already tweeted a lie about it....four hours ago
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jan 2019


I am pleased to inform you that I will Address the Nation on the Humanitarian and National Security crisis on our Southern Border. Tuesday night at 9:00 P.M. Eastern.

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12:44 PM - Jan 7, 2019

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
42. At 8 p.m. Eastern, the networks could put on Pelosi and Schumer to put out a little truth before the
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:20 PM
Jan 2019

lies start.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
45. Lucky me I don't own a TV, and I won't listen to his voice.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:34 PM
Jan 2019

If I inadvertently stumble across a video of him, or if I'm watching a TV say in a motel room and he comes on, I immediately switch away.

I doubt I'd be willing to watch him give a leaving office speech.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
47. Hey Brian
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jan 2019

Stop your whining and try doing your job - you know, try being a journalist instead of a teleprompter reader. Let hem speak and take him apart right afterwards. And no, we don't care how the pundits rate his speech at all. You TV news guys and gals are the reason we have this peeresident in the White House.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
52. fact check please
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:59 PM
Jan 2019

we need truth
I will not be watching... hate the sight of him and the sound of his voice

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
53. It has recently been revealed that Trump is a mofo.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jan 2019


And mofos are prohibited from using the public airwaves.

Says right there in the FCC pocket handbook.



JI7

(89,248 posts)
56. what BS. Why are they worried about him being mean to them ?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:06 PM
Jan 2019

why not just report the facts. the both sides bs is part of the reason for this shit also .

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
61. I hope MSNBC doesn't air it.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:46 PM
Jan 2019

That's when Rachel airs here. I never miss Rachel. I never listen to his lies its bad enough to listen to parts of it on the news.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
64. This kind of shit is designed for Fox. Let them continue as the sole water-carrier.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:39 PM
Jan 2019

BURY the networks with calls, emails, Twitter, whatever. Tell them that airing ANYTHING that allows that insane, fascist motherfucker to spew his hateful shit on network TV will result in a serious DROP in ratings!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
65. that makes sense
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jan 2019

They can report about it after the fact and after taking time to see if it's worth reporting.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
66. Precisely. Let Fox breathe the sulfurous stench, as usual.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jan 2019

And, as you say, other networks/outlets could report on it in the context of commentary, rather than hard news. Because it will be nothing but lies, as per 45’s default setting.

On edit: Or, if networks air it, they should give rebuttal time to another point of view, rather than the “Big Brother” treatment.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
67. #BoycottTrumpsAddress is 'trending'
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jan 2019

Which, I assume, is a good thing on twitter.

If it costs them money, they will think twice the next time.

Having a good Democratic response would be the next best thing to not having twitler aired at all.

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