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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:31 PM Jan 2019

Democrats Will Sue Trump If He Declares An Emergency To Build His Wall

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/07/democrats-will-sue-trump-if-he-declares-an-emergency-to-build-his-wall.html

Posted on Mon, Jan 7th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Democrats Will Sue Trump If He Declares An Emergency To Build His Wall


If Trump tries to declare a national emergency to build his wall, Democrats are already preparing legal challenges.

NBC’s Kristen Welker reported on MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Reports, “The two sides can’t even agree upon how the talks that have already unraveled have gone. President trump over the weekend saying they were productive and the Democrats firing back saying they weren’t productive. So where do things stand? The president is demanding $5 billion for a border wall, and he now says it can be steel instead of concrete. It’s not clear if Democrats are asking for that as a concession. They say a border wall is a non-starter and they say that his threat to potentially issue a national emergency and send troops to the border is also a nonstarter and something that will undoubtedly face legal challenges, Andrea.”





Democrats aren’t going to sit back and let Trump declare a national emergency to build his wall. Democrats have already told Trump that his wall whether it is made of steel or concrete is a no go. Trump is going to the border on Thursday to sell his wall as a national emergency. The president is laying the groundwork for trying to build his wall by declaring a national emergency, but Democrats are ready to haul Trump into court and get an injunction blocking him from moving forward.

The House would have legal standing to challenge Trump because they are the first step in appropriating or moving any funds that would be used to build the wall. Trump is likely to lose in court because there are clear criteria that must be met for a president to declare a national emergency.

Wanting a wall is not one of those criteria. Nancy Pelosi has sued presidents before and won, so if Trump tries to play this game with her, he better be prepared to lose in court.
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Democrats Will Sue Trump If He Declares An Emergency To Build His Wall (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
This is VERY good news! manor321 Jan 2019 #1
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #2
Wait, wait, wait.... Shell_Seas Jan 2019 #3
Good point. Yes, Federal Courts are using up other fee resources & run out Friday. ffr Jan 2019 #12
States would also have strong standing. California come mind mind. MineralMan Jan 2019 #4
There are also other options such as injunction and estoppal FakeNoose Jan 2019 #5
And to think only two people in this whole country are blocking progress gtar100 Jan 2019 #6
Exactly! smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #7
Me too. gtar100 Jan 2019 #9
Well i don't know about this bluestarone Jan 2019 #8
The sheep contingency. gtar100 Jan 2019 #10
Man i hear ya!! bluestarone Jan 2019 #11
You are so right DENVERPOPS Jan 2019 #15
what is moscow Mitch holding out for? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #21
I suspect it will end up at SCOTUS and we will win.. honest.abe Jan 2019 #13
Sue him? orangecrush Jan 2019 #14
So..he's going to border to spew the usual hate propaganda; show immineint threat? How? Based RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2019 #16
Yeah, but you know how I know it's bullshit? Volaris Jan 2019 #19
You're absolutley right! 5x bone spur draft dodger, chicken shite is a coward. RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2019 #20
Hoping Humpty Dumpty tRumpy sticks with his 4000 terrorists stopped at the Southern border in 2018. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2019 #17
its a vanity wall... yuiyoshida Jan 2019 #18
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. This is VERY good news!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:35 PM
Jan 2019

I'm extremely pleased the Democrats have put this message out there. They need to add to the narrative.

Josh Marshall believes the Trump side knows they'll lose in court, but that it will make them look tough.

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)
3. Wait, wait, wait....
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:43 PM
Jan 2019

I read earlier today that Federal Court will be closed (run out of money), if the shutdown goes past Friday....


So, if he declares a National Emergency and we sue, what will happen if the Federal Court are closed?

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
5. There are also other options such as injunction and estoppal
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jan 2019

There will be no wall and Cheeto already knows it. He's just maneuvering for some kind of win out of this clusterf*ck.




 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. Exactly!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jan 2019

Mitch is just as bad as the Apricot Hellbeast. I am looking forward to the day when I open a newspaper and find his obituary.

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
8. Well i don't know about this
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

The complete bunch of REPUBS in the senate could stop Turtle face if they wanted!!! (seems like they do not want to)

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
15. You are so right
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:55 PM
Jan 2019

The ENTIRE republican senate is totally complicit in this ongoing mess.
Trump wouldn't last ONE hour without them allowing him to get away with all this.

Everyone's attention (media included) is focused on his daily antics, in the mean time the Republicans in the House and Senate have been passing stuff right and left out of everyone's vision for two years.

Some one in the Democratic higher ups, should encourage EVERY democrat in each state to bombard and bury their Republican Senators with calls and emails continuously each and every day until they do something about Trump.

I suspect that many of these Republican Senators accepted money from the NRA which came to them from Russia with love and if this house of cards collapses they will all go down with Trump as willful conspirators.

WASF

Putin is laughing his ass off at how simple it was to topple the U.S. to it's knees. A few more weeks/months of this and we will all be flat on our backs......Except of course, the 1%ers........

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,337 posts)
21. what is moscow Mitch holding out for?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:00 PM
Jan 2019

He knows Trump can't be trusted because of previous 'deals' that twitler broke at the last minute. What is McConnell waiting to see happen?

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
16. So..he's going to border to spew the usual hate propaganda; show immineint threat? How? Based
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:55 PM
Jan 2019

.. his lies, nonsensical babble. Aye dios! ( aye dios: dear god save us from this mal hombre, yes it means all that; mal: bad evil.) Perhaps he'll stage a scenario with hundreds, thousands of unpaid refugee actors crossing the Rio Grande or desparately scaling the existing wall with 40ct ladders. Or how about a shoot out at high noon between him and a mother nursing her child afterall he did say he'd get away with murder.

Of course I' m being facetious, yet we have seen those fake images, lies that he and his sycophants or fox news daily. PS. I wonder why he's so anxious to leave DC, perhaps Mueller is going to drop more indictments. PS. Imf45!

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
19. Yeah, but you know how I know it's bullshit?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

If he were right and the border were just a raging cesspooll of crime, hate, drugs, gangs and murder...

His chickenshit ass wouldn't step foot within 500 miles. If he's going down there, it's safe as Central Park, and so no wall is needed.

So fuck him.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
20. You're absolutley right! 5x bone spur draft dodger, chicken shite is a coward.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:28 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Tue Jan 8, 2019, 11:12 AM - Edit history (1)

.ps. paz.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
17. Hoping Humpty Dumpty tRumpy sticks with his 4000 terrorists stopped at the Southern border in 2018.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

According to NBC News some of the "real numbers" released by CBP are as follows:

".....U.S. Customs and Border Protection encountered only six immigrants at ports of entry on the U.S-Mexico border in the first half of fiscal year 2018 whose names were on a federal government list of known or suspected terrorists, according to CBP data provided to Congress in May 2018 and obtained by NBC News.

The low number contradicts statements by Trump administration officials, including White House press secretary Sarah Sanders, who said Friday that CBP stopped nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists from crossing the southern border in fiscal year 2018.

Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen told reporters on Monday the exact number, which NBC News is first to report, was classified but that she was working on making it public. The data was the latest set on this topic provided to Congress. It is possible that the data was updated since that time, but not provided to Congress."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/only-six-immigrants-terrorism-database-stopped-cbp-southern-border-first-n955861

I would hope the smackdown appears in a crawl below him as he is speaking.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
18. its a vanity wall...
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:57 PM
Jan 2019

nothing more and nothing less...something to slap his name on to ..let him slap his name on a OUTHOUSE at the border.

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