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orangecrush

(19,620 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:30 PM Jan 2019

WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!

Kentuck posted a thread on this article, I found the link here elsewhere.

I think it bears repeating.




"More is at stake here than the outcome of one or even two elections. Trump has long signaled his disdain for the concepts of limited presidential power and democratic rule. During his 2016 campaign, he praised murderous dictators. He declared that his opponent, Hillary Clinton, would be in jail if he were president, goading crowds into frenzied chants of “Lock her up.” He hinted that he might not accept an electoral loss. As democracies around the world slide into autocracy, and nationalism and antidemocratic sentiment are on vivid display among segments of the American populace, Trump’s evident hostility to key elements of liberal democracy cannot be dismissed as mere bluster.

The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—he is able to set aside many of the legal limits on his authority.
It would be nice to think that America is protected from the worst excesses of Trump’s impulses by its democratic laws and institutions. After all, Trump can do only so much without bumping up against the limits set by the Constitution and Congress and enforced by the courts. Those who see Trump as a threat to democracy comfort themselves with the belief that these limits will hold him in check.


But will they? Unknown to most Americans, a parallel legal regime allows the president to sidestep many of the constraints that normally apply. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power. For instance, the president can, with the flick of his pen, activate laws allowing him to shut down many kinds of electronic communications inside the United States or freeze Americans’ bank accounts. Other powers are available even without a declaration of emergency, including laws that allow the president to deploy troops inside the country to subdue domestic unrest.

This edifice of extraordinary powers has historically rested on the assumption that the president will act in the country’s best interest when using them. With a handful of noteworthy exceptions, this assumption has held up. But what if a president, backed into a corner and facing electoral defeat or impeachment, were to declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power? In that scenario, our laws and institutions might not save us from a presidential power grab. They might be what takes us down."

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/

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WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP! (Original Post) orangecrush Jan 2019 OP
This needs to be read by everyone willing to read it! triron Jan 2019 #1
The incoming House Democrats orangecrush Jan 2019 #2
"Trump is a clear and present danger". SergeStorms Jan 2019 #16
Wow. I had no idea. triron Jan 2019 #18
Like was stated after Pearl Harbor was attacked. "Afraid we awakened a sleeping Giant" bluestarone Jan 2019 #3
That was my favorite line from Tora, Tora, Tora. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #4
Mine too!! bluestarone Jan 2019 #5
We are orangecrush Jan 2019 #10
McConnell must Go. flying_wahini Jan 2019 #6
McConnell is likely compromised orangecrush Jan 2019 #8
I don't think he's doing it for Trump. Control-Z Jan 2019 #32
knr triron Jan 2019 #7
... orangecrush Jan 2019 #11
KICK! bluestarone Jan 2019 #9
Thanks! orangecrush Jan 2019 #12
Your so welcome!! bluestarone Jan 2019 #13
Scary. lunatica Jan 2019 #14
Beyond Nixonian orangecrush Jan 2019 #15
+10000 triron Jan 2019 #20
Way past Nixon in scariness n/t shanti Jan 2019 #36
How long have we known this? smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #17
You can't just blame them. How about the media and those that support this evil man? triron Jan 2019 #19
I blame everyone who has supported him and normalized his behavior. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #23
I'd read this but I need to sleep tonight! kimbutgar Jan 2019 #21
Courts will put a stop to his "national emergency." Period. It won't legally happen. ancianita Jan 2019 #22
I sure hope so. triron Jan 2019 #25
knr triron Jan 2019 #24
Great article underpants Jan 2019 #26
Thanks! orangecrush Jan 2019 #27
kick for visibility triron Jan 2019 #28
Thanks! orangecrush Jan 2019 #30
kick again triron Jan 2019 #29
Thanks! orangecrush Jan 2019 #31
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Jan 2019 #33
Thanks! orangecrush Jan 2019 #34
Thank YOU!! spanone Jan 2019 #35

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
16. "Trump is a clear and present danger".
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jan 2019

I think we've all known that since before he was elected. I'm pretty sure we're all well versed in the dangers inherent to Mr. Orange's "presidency". What, other than contacting Congresspeople, can we do about it?

Congratulations on your 10,000th post, triron!

bluestarone

(17,042 posts)
3. Like was stated after Pearl Harbor was attacked. "Afraid we awakened a sleeping Giant"
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jan 2019

And i feel the new House with Pelosi is OUR awakened Giant!!!!! I have Faith!!!

flying_wahini

(6,651 posts)
6. McConnell must Go.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:55 PM
Jan 2019

I can't figure out why there aren't Republicans calling Congress!
What's wrong with these people? If I was Republican I would be marching in the streets!

orangecrush

(19,620 posts)
8. McConnell is likely compromised
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 09:36 PM
Jan 2019

in some form.

There aren't many other explanations for his willingness to sacrifice his party for Trump.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
32. I don't think he's doing it for Trump.
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jan 2019

I believe it goes a bit higher. Let's just say I think the turtle and the maggot have the same boss.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. How long have we known this?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:03 PM
Jan 2019

Yet nobody has acted to curb his behavior along the way. He just gets what he wants over and over again and now we are at a crisis point because the feeble republican party won't act. They have created this monster and they are responsible for this complete cluster-fuck.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. I blame everyone who has supported him and normalized his behavior.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 11:23 PM
Jan 2019

They are all to blame, but the republicans are the only ones who can actually curb his power. They are to blame for letting him get away with this shit.

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