NOW

They raised the fact that they did not carry Obama. Mica is clear - the networks should not cover this. Joe is now discussing the fact that they did not carry Obama and that the Con will lie about an imaginary crisis at the border.

during the campaign.

NBC in general enabled this Con - big time.

All the free airtime he wanted. No rebuttals, just pure propaganda. It was disgraceful. NOW they expect us to believe they have actually "seen the light" on this clown? WE all knew what an ass he was right from the start. How stupid were they not to see that? Unless, oh no! - they were sucking up for invites to Mar-A-Lago.

Turns out that in reality he's 'wusserer' (as we say) than the worst apprentice on his show. I live for the day when the US collectively shouts - you're fired!

However, I do believe them and appreciate their fact-checking. We can't have enough of that. Whether or not the bad blood started over that infamous Mar-A-Lago New Year's party or not, the more the merrier when it comes to piling on the Orange Idiot. To be fair to EVERYONE who gave Trump free rein, nobody took him seriously. Lesson learned, I hope.

Money is secondary.

Every time he ate a cheese sandwich 🥪 it was headline news. This is a major reason I won’t waste my time with CNN or MSNBC. They are simply about ratings as opposed to journalism.

They are complicit with the far right.

Because their dear friend, Donald let them use his Golf Clubs free!

Now, all of a sudden Trump is bad!

I listen to some Joe every morning. They tear Trump's lies apart every day. Just a minute ago they had a little clip of Joe interrupting Trump's talk to the UN to call out his lies. I think they do a good job. When some station has some coverage of Trump talking for a long time, I turn it off. But, they are doing some good things.
I think you have to be open or you do miss the good things. If you just shut everything or everyone who has ever said something you don't agree with, aren't you just as closed minded as Trump's base?

‘We all know he’s lying’: MSNBC’s Morning Joe shreds Pence for pushing border lies ‘to please the boss’


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/know-hes-lying-msnbcs-morning-joe-shreds-pence-pushing-border-lies-please-boss/

Love him or hate him, many people will tune in to find out what sort of cockamamie shit he'll spew on national TV this time.

The networks love to shake their money maker and the temptation to watch a train wreck is just far too memorizing for many. I definitely don't have FOMO for the MOFO. He's toxic.

advertise a drug to "manage" it. Brilliant! And wrong!!

We have a relative who visits annually. All she watches are the sob stories on Lifetime and some years back I noticed that most of their ads were from big pharma. Then I started paying attention on other channels.
I usually crack up when they list the side effects, any one of which appears to kill you faster than the initial problem.

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When I was younger, I dismissed the potential side effects thinking that they HAD to list EVERYTHING they could think of to keep themselves from being sued. As I educated myself, I learned they are listing actual outcomes of the administration of their drug to healthy subjects in a clinical trial. HEALTHY subjects! SH*T!! That's different! People don't realize and they don't take those potential side effects seriously.

or they would not even list them. You are right - many folks ignore them.

but I had to look up FOMO (fear of missing out?). That's a new one to me! Yes, he's as toxic as they come.

By the way, I went looking for your Deleria poem but came up empty handed. Sorry.

Would you settle for this:

In a flower show, Ned from Australia,
Painted his butt like a dahlia,
For colour and size,
it won the first prize
But the smell, was a hell
Of a failure.

He literally makes me sick. My blood pressure rises, and rage fills me. He is a cartoon character, pretending to be the leader of the free world. Disgraceful. The gop should be destroyed for promoting and backing this total arsehole.

what he has said. His voice, his lies, his bigotry and his ignorance are not welcome in our house. If NPR has him speaking when I am in the car, I turn down the volume.

I will step out of the shower and cross the bathroom to turn off the radio if they play a clip of trump. I will NOT look at him or listen to him any more than I absolutely have to. trump is NOT welcome in my home.

Libertarians (a branch of white supremacists) are just fine with Trump destroying our institutions, destroying our democracy. They are packing the courts with right wing ideologues. The oligarchs control the narrative on all of cable news, on all of the M$M media.

corporate fascist son-of-a-bitch. Shirer's description of Hitler's Germany is so prophetic it raises the hackles on the back of my neck:

William L. Shirer said it best:
Tue, 03/23/2010 - 15:29 — angry young man
In chapter eight of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," Shirer writes, seemingly of Hitler, Goebbels, and the “news”:
"I myself was to experience how easily one is taken in by a lying and censored press and radio in a totalitarian state. Though unlike most Germans I had daily access to foreign newspapers, especially those of London, Paris and Zurich, which arrived the day after publication, and though I listened regularly to the BBC and other foreign broadcasts, my job necessitated the spending of many hours a day in combing the German press, checking the German radio, conferring with nazi officials and going to party meetings. It was surprising and sometimes consternating to find that notwithstanding the opportunities I had to learn the facts and despite one's inherent distrust of what one learned from Nazi sources, a steady diet over the years of falsifications and distortions made a certain impression on one's mind and often misled it. No one who has not lived for years in a totalitarian land can possibly conceive how difficult it is to escape the dread consequences of a regime's calculated and incessant propaganda. Often in a German home or office or sometimes in a casual conversation with a stranger in a restaurant, a beer hall, a cafe, I would meet with the most outlandish assertions from seemingly educated and intelligent persons. It was obvious that they were parroting some piece of nonsense they had heard on the radio or read in the newspapers. Sometimes one was tempted to say as much, but on such occasions one was met with such a stare of incredulity, such a shock of silence, as if one had blasphemed the Almighty, that one realized how useless it was even to try to make contact with a mind which had become warped and for whom the facts of life had become what Hitler and Goebbels, with their cynical disregard for truth, said they were" (247-48).

[For what it’s worth.]

For Bush to shove his war propaganda!

The Bush/Cheney White House gave her an article about the mushroom cloud. Sweet Judy published it in the NY Times under her name. That same weekend all of the Cheney chicken hawks were on the Sunday talk shows quoting sweet Judy's article.