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Why, Bernie? (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2019 OP
This is seperate from Schumer/Pelosi response? Shell_Seas Jan 2019 #1
yes obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #10
He's supposedly announcing on the 12th. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #12
I just saw on twitter that Our Revolution is launching a draft bernie campaign... Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #17
Oy. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #2
Why not? mwooldri Jan 2019 #3
is he delivering an alternative message? bigtree Jan 2019 #6
Bernie is representing Bernie... SidDithers Jan 2019 #37
+1,000,000 This!! Considering that corporate media is dominated by rethugs, progressive voices diva77 Jan 2019 #7
Why not have EVERY Democrat give a separate response? brooklynite Jan 2019 #13
If they can grab air time, I say go for it. What details are you concerned about people failing to diva77 Jan 2019 #22
Maybe they all should -- by twitter -- all in basic agreement with Pelosi/Schumer karynnj Jan 2019 #35
No Instagram Live? No SnapChat? violetpastille Jan 2019 #4
A great idea. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #5
One more reminder that he is NOT a Democrat. tinrobot Jan 2019 #8
Good thoughts...too bad we lost Lieberman. Now that was a democrat. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #15
He has caucused with the Democrats and gave them their one vote Senate majority during W's CentralMass Jan 2019 #21
Do we REALLY need to be reminded yet again that he is not a Democrat? pangaia Jan 2019 #30
Wait wat? He's no a Democrat? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #47
I'll definitely be listening to him Joe941 Jan 2019 #9
I'm curious, though. Shell_Seas Jan 2019 #11
Many statements and has done so for a while now. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #48
Who else if not Bernie bdamomma Jan 2019 #14
Removing my posts to avoid offending supporters of Senator Sanders. Here's a puppy LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #16
Cheap shot. Hillary won the 2008 W. Virginia primary with the same racist votes Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #19
Not to mention that Sanders voters voted for Clinton at a higher percentage Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #23
No. But people could stop with the "racists vote for Sanders" bullshit. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #28
Is he? I thought it was Trump and the Republicans. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #31
So I'm a racist? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #34
So I voted for Trump? I don't get your point of "back to the first post" Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #40
But you haven't then addressed the arguments in the middle. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #44
Because, obviously, Bernie is only interested in building a brand separate from the grantcart Jan 2019 #18
Yep. dalton99a Jan 2019 #24
+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #25
I would hope that every sane politician would speak out to what will surely be a bunch of MF lies. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #26
One rebuttal is enough tonight... and that rebuttal should come from John Fante Jan 2019 #32
... SidDithers Jan 2019 #36
Self delete since everything is being flagged. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #38
Can we PLEASE stop calling him a Democrat now? EffieBlack Jan 2019 #42
UGH ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #43
I will be watching the official response on the net works Gothmog Jan 2019 #46

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
17. I just saw on twitter that Our Revolution is launching a draft bernie campaign...
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jan 2019

It's not a joke. This is real.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
3. Why not?
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jan 2019

Republican, Democratic and so-called Independent (Democratic in all but name) response.

The more people calling out Trump bullshit the better.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
6. is he delivering an alternative message?
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jan 2019

...that would be unfortunate.

Legislators should leave the platform to the two leaders of the Democratic party. I'm not sure what Bernie is representing here. I don't think there's a separate Dem coalition on this issue.

This is about the shutdown and any negotiations will center on those two Democrats.

diva77

(7,656 posts)
7. +1,000,000 This!! Considering that corporate media is dominated by rethugs, progressive voices
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jan 2019

need to be heard and deserve to give a response to Dump's lies. I hope more progressive/dem voices will respond as well and grab some media attention.

brooklynite

(94,729 posts)
13. Why not have EVERY Democrat give a separate response?
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jan 2019

Then people won't remember the details of any of them.

diva77

(7,656 posts)
22. If they can grab air time, I say go for it. What details are you concerned about people failing to
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jan 2019

remember?

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
35. Maybe they all should -- by twitter -- all in basic agreement with Pelosi/Schumer
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jan 2019

At this point, we don't know what Trump will say, but we know it will be inflamatory and a lie. It may even call for emergency action. He is very likely to try to blame the Democrats for the deplorable conditions at the border.

What is most galling is that - other than the consequences of his own actions - there is NOTHING new happening there. One thing that could be pointed out is that even in the wake of 911, when people died, buildings fell and ash was in the air of much of lower Manhattan even weeks later .... and even Bush/Cheney did not do what he is proposing.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
21. He has caucused with the Democrats and gave them their one vote Senate majority during W's
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

administration and is on at least 5 committees and Chair of the Democratic Outreach Committee. He won VT's Democratic senate primary with 91% of the vote.

This Democrat is glad that he is giving a rebuttal tonight.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
16. Removing my posts to avoid offending supporters of Senator Sanders. Here's a puppy
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:03 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Tue Jan 8, 2019, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
19. Cheap shot. Hillary won the 2008 W. Virginia primary with the same racist votes
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jan 2019

They preferred Hillary to a black man in the primary. Then they voted for a white male over Hillary in the General. In 2016 those voters preferred Bernie to a woman. Then they again voted for a white male in the General.

Those voters who gave Hilary such a strong win in the 2008 Democratic primary were never her base voters, and they are not Bernie's base voters either.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
20. Not to mention that Sanders voters voted for Clinton at a higher percentage
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

than Clinton voters did for Obama. But, I guess facts don't matter.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #20)

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
27. No. But people could stop with the "racists vote for Sanders" bullshit.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jan 2019

That would be nice. And, you know, actually focus on the problems at hand.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #27)

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
29. Is he? I thought it was Trump and the Republicans.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jan 2019

Did Sanders break with the Dem caucus and I missed the news? *checks Google* Nope, he's still voting with us and pushing for progressive policy.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #29)

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #33)

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
39. So I voted for Trump? I don't get your point of "back to the first post"
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jan 2019

And those that voted for Trump in WV were racist. Or are we pretending we don't know that?

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #39)

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
41. But you haven't then addressed the arguments in the middle.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

That Sanders supports voted for Clinton at a higher percentage than Clinton supporters voted for Obama. And I don't see anyone saying that Clinton is the problem? And you picked one state out of the union to prove your point.

And how does Sanders giving his address give more support to Trump?

You just aren't making a clear cogent argument other than SANDERS!!!!@21!!ARGLBARGL

Sanders isn't the problem. TRUMP is. Sanders isn't support Trump in any way shape or form. And if you point to your graphic about WV one more time and ignore all the other stuff, I have no help for you.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #41)

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #39)

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
18. Because, obviously, Bernie is only interested in building a brand separate from the
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jan 2019

Democratic Party. Why people are surprised at this when he has made specific statements that support it is the only mystery.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
26. I would hope that every sane politician would speak out to what will surely be a bunch of MF lies.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jan 2019

Why not, Bigtree?

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
32. One rebuttal is enough tonight... and that rebuttal should come from
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jan 2019

Pelosi and Schumer! Now Bernie, in his quest for the spotlight, has to show up and dilute it.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
42. Can we PLEASE stop calling him a Democrat now?
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

The Democratic response is being given by the two Democratic leaders. I don't know what response Bernie is giving, but it sure doesn't have anything to do with the Democrats.

Gothmog

(145,564 posts)
46. I will be watching the official response on the net works
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 05:39 PM
Jan 2019

I have no interest in wasting my time trying to find the sanders unofficial response.

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