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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSchumer and Pelosi are describing a disturbing meeting.
They are speaking to reporters and have described Trump as walking out on them in anger. Schumer described Trumps conduct as unbecoming the offfice of the presidency.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)mobeau69
(11,143 posts)he stood up and said there's nothing to meet about and walked out.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Wasn't he the one to suggest a meeting?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)It's his usual shtick. It makes him feel like a tough guy.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)Good negotiators are people with good ethics, they understand that for a lasting relationship in business there has to be a win-win solution. Everybody wins, everybody walks out happy and the doors are open for future negotiations.
trump is a buffoon with a mafia mentality, he has no class and doesn't have the faintest idea how to negotiate. His negotiation skills have always been mafia-type, intimidation, the bluff that he is a billionaire which lures unsuspecting, uninformed people into doing business with him. Why did most banks stop doing business with him? because banks are not stupid.
He is just a buffoon from the mafia, he is a total asshole with no skills of anything. How he has lured so many networks to support him during the campaign I don't know, but it speaks very loud how low our society has come. The ignorance of the USA society has reached a high that has become dangerous, and we all need to do something about it. We need to put the extra time to educate the young, to allow them to understand that the World is one, we kill it, we all die.
Reading about what has happened in Brazil, and other European countries where right-wing fanatics have taken over, the picture that came to my mind is of a big hand throwing TNT into a giant ball, and in time the ball will explode creating chaos in the entire World. South America is already screwed, Brazil with its "socialist" regime was in check, but now a Brazilian trump comes along who has sworn to destroy the Amazon, and there is no stopping global warming, deceases, and other catastrophic events.
I hate to say it, but the World is in deep shit.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Autocrats rarely are good negotiators. They are bullies who pull crass moves to try to establish themselves as an Alpha that must be obeyed.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)This isn't a negotiation, it's an extortion demand. Last I checked, extortion is a crime and should be treated as such--even when the alleged president does it!
calimary
(81,222 posts)Pelosi "raised five kids. She KNOWS how to say 'no'."
docgee
(870 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)True Dough
(17,303 posts)That about sums up the past two years!
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)moment he took the oath.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)Is exactly what I was thinking.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Keep digging MF45.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and temper tantrums. I want to know if he slammed the door on the way out of the room, just in case Pelosi and Schumer missed how angry he was.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)and demanding full funding is that he wants to weaken Pelosi.
If she stands her ground and he does not get a 100 percent win then Pelosi is stronger.
And he cannot live with that
jalan48
(13,863 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)dalton99a
(81,468 posts)after his little border inspection in Texas
Hekate
(90,667 posts)Gotta make the crowds look good, after all.
Texin
(2,596 posts)monies. He's gathering every quill in his quiver to stage some kind of Reichstag dumpster fire or something. He really needs to realize that he's no Cheney.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)have said that there are better ways to secure the border (as well as pointing out that "the border" in discussion is NOT the major problem) and considering other ways would be a way to "negotiate."
However, for IQ45, negotiate means "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY."
And tonight the MSM will show how Speaker Pelosi refuses to "negotiate."
LoveMyCali
(2,015 posts)I just had to turn it off
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wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Oh yeah, that would work great
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)fantastic representatives...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)the suggestion of physical assault and shaming Pelosi and Schumer for being restrained?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"So you're saying Trump refused..."
And do attempt a more accurate inference next time rather than allowing your emotions to cloud critical and rational thought.
Bless your little heart.
Fuzzpope
(602 posts)On a very short plank advocating for violence.
Check yourself.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Physical assault is their way, not ours.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)Hekate
(90,667 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)White Hood?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Physical assault?
barbtries
(28,789 posts)i guess it might be the first time in his wretched life when he just cannot get his way. but give him a few minutes with the twitter machine and fox news and he'll be calling it a victory. because he really cannot lose. not ever. his pathology does not allow for it.
underpants
(182,788 posts)Even his divorces were used to display his wealth. Hes never dealt with anyone in an equal level - he picked on people who couldnt afford to fight him in court.
This is a good sign as long as they keep him away from the nuclear buttons.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It's one thing for us to say that, but it takes on new emphasis and truth when a U.S. Senator says it about a president*.
Pelosi said Trump doesnt understand the dire straits that federal workers are in as they face the continued loss of their paychecks.
He thinks maybe they could just ask their father for more money, Pelosi said. But they cant. But they cant.
azureblue
(2,146 posts)Baby Don is trying the escalating tantrum trick. he thinks he scared the Democratic leadership by walking out of the meeting and he can use that to "prove" the the Dem. Leadership does not want to work with him. So his next tantrum will be some sort of power play, but he is getting much closer to being ignored than he thinks he is.
My prediction is the next tantrum will be his last. Much like the boy who cried wolf, one more tantrum and he will be ignored and the GOP will be looking for a way to get him out of the White House
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)Gothmog
(145,168 posts)sheshe2
(83,750 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)This stupid, ignorant, childish, impulsive, inarticulate, immature behavior could spark a nuclear war.
Or does he just behave this way when dealing with women? Because he knows someone his own size might just kick his ass?
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,637 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Nothing.
He has spent his life lying in deals which is why he now owes Putin and friends 4 billion and has had to betray the country to pay them back.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)leadership, business, government he knows nothing. he knows how to consolidate his death cult.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)The lowest IQ could do that.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)support him or they wont.
He works for putin and does what he is told even though most of the time he doesnt understand what he is told.
He has no smarts other than the basic human ability to seek adulation and repeat what gets you adulation.
He has never once made a statement or comment about anything especially business that shows he knows anything about it, at all. I have followed his lies and crimes for decades and people I know in NYC have even more so and assure me my observation is accurate.
I know just from watching and listening to him he is incapable of learning and therefore knows nothing OTHER than hate sells.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)It's the people who are whispering in his ear and telling him what to do. He doesn't act without having Steven Miller, Hannity, Limbaugh and his various handlers planting ideas into his fat, empty head.
Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)in the pocketbook
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Oh, for a grown-up from the administration to be in the room.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Acultually believed that his speech last night was going to be so good and persuasive that the Dems would have no choice but to give him what he wanted.
Reality has a funny way of dashing his hopes.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)How will this end? Without repub help it will just go on and on.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)tRump is very stubborn and won't give in.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)All I know is we can't back down. Whatever short term relief we get from it will be eradicated once fascists realize all they have to do is hold the government hostage to get what they want. It would be opening Pandora's Box.
Whatever happens happens. But no retreat. If we have to carry this on until we get a new president, we will.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)They, through Trump, own the shut down. They will be seriously hurt if the shut down stretches closer to the election season. They will have to work out some kind of deal or simply cave and pass a clean bill, that Trump may veto just to try to pin it all on him.
CabalPowered
(12,690 posts)It might take a month or more but sooner or later, a handful of Senators will demand he take action. I think that's the best case scenario. Every other potential outcome is uncharted territory.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)Thus giving McConnell cover to bring the clean bill up for a vote.
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)I just heard that!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Someone remove this unfit basket case from the office of the Presidency!
mastermind
(229 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)None of his go to tantrum dealmaking tactics are working! Fuck!
Now what? Hes never encountered anything like this before! Fuck!
mastermind
(229 posts)I've heard the beef is all forrest raised
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)doc03
(35,328 posts)the very least.
VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)And that his behavior is unacceptable.
jb5150
(1,178 posts)tosh
(4,423 posts)I love it when he is visibly melting down.
Goodheart
(5,321 posts)trump: "I want you to compromise by giving me everything I want, including my wall."
Pelosi: "I AM your wall. That's my compromise."
trump (slamming his hand on the table): "I'm wasting my time with you. I'm going to go whine a lot on twitter about how you don't know what compromise means."
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)because of course he did.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,974 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)I could have throttled the Reporter! I actually said not to put ideas in his head. Sure enough,next time I saw Trump he was saying he just may do that!
Initech
(100,068 posts)Really he's an addict and it's starting to show.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)When youve had two MFing years to do what the flaming poopoo you damn well wanted. Whiney whiney trumpie baby want a wall you shouldve given him an ever loving wall you stupid republicans.
You just didnt want to own it, now you want the Dems to own your mistake, fuck you.
no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)that Nancy was like any other woman, that she would fold if pressure was put on her.
Trump had no Plan B ready because he believed the promises.
He is humiliated. He is castrated. But he is not humbled. He is more arrogant than ever. He is determined to destroy the Democrats no matter what.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)You know, wringing her hands and acting "concerned" before giving him everything he wants. I'm looking at you, Collins, you ineffective shill.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,185 posts)not KING.
I still don't know why they don't resussitate the Gang of 8 immigration bill from 2013. It probably would have passed if John Boehner hadn't refused to allow a vote. It would certainly pass the House now.
BarbD
(1,192 posts)We can't give in to this bully who has no business being president. There is a large ripple effect of the government shutdown on supporting businesses who will never be able to recover the lost revenue. That is gone forever. Pressure must be put on Republican Senators to open the government and then have hearings on border security.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)Lord knows how much he owes and would probably try to skim off whatever is given. I'd like to know where the money is that has already been allotted----something over $1B and has not been spent---or is already in Russian pockets.
BootinUp
(47,143 posts)czarjak
(11,269 posts)Not a good long term, real world strategy? Who knew!
cilla4progress
(24,728 posts)I hope it's ripping his insides up (trump).
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Miigwech
(3,741 posts)do something????? repubs???? The Founding Fathers never conceived of this catastrophe.
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)Are they being blackmailed or are their families being threatened? I ask this in all seriousness.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)Trump responded bluntly, "Because then you won't give me what I want."
Can you imagine the repercussions of giving Trump what he wants? It would put an end to American democracy and hand all of the power over to a dictator!
Sudsy
(58 posts)he snorted last night before his speech must have worn off.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)World-class negotiator, that one.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)You're supposed to bang your shoe against the table and scream "we will bury you!" at the top of your lungs.
Seriously guys, they REALLY need to start the process of removing Trump from office...preferably to a room with soft walls.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Its because Junior has been subpoenaed by a House Committee, and little donnie is feeling the heat!
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)it really doesn't. It's pathetic even on the surface.
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)Turn it up!
dchill
(38,481 posts)Hugin
(33,135 posts)It was fait accompli that the whole meeting was part of Orange Julius Caesar's kabuki theater and they should know better than to feed it.
mickswalkabout41
(145 posts)There goes the idea of the 25th amendment. (Hope that is right)
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)The man is a clown!