We have seen this hang together or hang separately thing from these folks since 2009.

but I'm inclined to think that Manchin won't. West Virginia has a ton of federal jobs (and I'm not sure how many have been affected) and they are a state where federal dollars are greatly needed.

That was thanks to Robert C.Byrd (but won't leave out Jay Rockefeller IV either)!

Alabama has this -https://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/home/index.html in Huntsville, AL.

referenced WV because my wife's family is from there.

Beautiful state.

and they would go back down there every summer (at least when her mother was younger - she is in her late 90s now).

I was there for a training course about 20 years ago. Stayed in Berkeley Springs. The mountains are beautiful. Saw part of the Appalachian Trail too!

It's all hot air until they actually commit (and follow through), and six of them aren't enough anyway.

Otherwise it's just the usual Flake-ery show of hand-wringing and "concern", then toeing the Party line as they always end up doing.

versus most of the rest who are full force blobby loons.

And as a note - the Flakery send off resulted in 270 nominees for confirmations that were expired at the end of the calendar year and would have to be resubmitted, due to his blocking,

NOTHING is beyond him.

Nuking a country, for example.

as to the damage a State of Emergency will cause.

My guess is,once the declaration is in place,Trump will use it to bounce Mueller and try to depose anyone who he thinks will oppose him or his family in anyway shape or form.

If this idea is coming from Steve Miller,this is what this little Turkey is all about.

Every word out of their mouths about personal responsibility etc, all bullshit

or patriotism, what a laugh

Looking back at Turmp's Campaign and the Slugs who were in place. Bannon advocated this as well as others .

Trump wants to be a Putin,enough said,so hang on it is going to get butt ugly in the next few weeks.

Military will be harmed, and 45 milion sycophant deplorable racist motherfuckers will love it.

Personally, I think the wall gets built over my _ _ _ _ body.

showing the Companies that had to lay off employees because of lack of Federal Inspectors or shutdown of Agencies they do business with.

their leader, they love it.

You might be the first to post this meme. My same thoughts exactly.

Or turn their gaming hobby into something they can charge for.

And bake cookies.

He's hoping that only the GOP will get heat from their constituents, but I see both sides getting pressure to make some sort of a compromise.

And that's what it's going to take to get this resolved. Even if the Senate takes up a measure passed by the House, some Senator who wants to be the next Trump (Cruz comes to mind immediately) stands in the way, and the Trump base gravitates to that Senator to steal away the 2020 nomination.

And as tax refunds do not come out, the heat will rise.

Perhaps these workers could hold a giant bake sale.

according to the dipshit...although for the non-furloughed, having to work without getting paid is not really much like being "on strike," is it?

that the government needs to be reopened WITHOUT wall money. If there are 4 going public, there are very likely more who are saying the same thing privately. We don't know how many...enough to override a veto?

My hope is that enough will speak to McConnell that he will be forced to act ethically and responsibly.

people are demonstrating in several states.
ReTHUGs seem to forget that the Democratic Party just whipped their ass and took the House.
People are energized.

When the GOP. led by Newt Gingrich, shut down the Government, voters sided with Bill Clinton.

but would love to see this happen. But what happens if enough eventually "bolt" in the Senate and McTurtle remains loyal to Dirty Don?

My view, and my hope, is that McConnell will realize that his bloc is against him and will decide to open debate.

Before the Repugs become even more repugnant to voters, they need to ditch Mitch and put the bills on the Senate floor.

Are they *that* afraid of Trump's "base" when the majority of the public doesn't care about the Wall, certainly not enough to keep government shut down for "weeks or years" like the insane Trumpsters?

And he signed the tax cut for billionaires bill.

Money and power are primal motivators.

At some point possible loss of the Senate in two years should factor into their calculations this year

Is this another term for useless gestures that suggest reasonableness but actually do not change anything?

Miami's airport? Rich folks are losing monies. Federal not getting paid. McTurtle won't bring bills passed by the House to reopen the government.

Americans are truly pissed. And they blame t-rump and the GOP (I don't give a fuck about polls saying otherwise).

He's the one holding the government workers hostage now.

The more republicans will be voted out of office in 2020. Hurting people by shutting down the government will have lasting consequences, and trump is really screwing over his party the most now by doing this now. They didn't learn anything from the disaster from the Mid Terms.

government are passing with huge majorities. If Mitch didn't have his turtle lips permanently attached to Don's behind we could get the government open for business today!

We hear from Democrats all the time about what some random named Republican says they don't like Trump. But they still stick to Trump.

I believe Republicans loathe Trump. The Republicans I know can't stand him and openly mock him daily. But not enough to come over to the Democratic party or anything close to liberal politics. They're comfortable, rich, and insulated enough to moan about Trump but do nothing in reality.

I suspect Republicans in DC are doing the same thing: Moaning about Trump at the bar after work, but not really doing anything.