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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan Louise Mensch now say "I told you so"?
Louise Mensch was screaming about this existence of SIGINT and 5-Eyes surveillance, and treason since June of 2017. She obviously had some connections with inside intelligence. I think she guesses on a lot of stuff and tried to piece things together into a believable scenario in her articles but on balance has been way ahead of the media.
Zoonart
(11,879 posts)She was right about almost everything. Yes, she guesses... She m y be a flake, however, she has been right for longer than almost anyone writing about this
situation.
People have worked very. hard to discredit her. Wonder why?
eShirl
(18,503 posts)Nobody's stopping her.
manor321
(3,344 posts)infullview
(982 posts)She was right on with most of her comments - including the fact that the FBI had a FISA warrant to investigate Trump as a counter intelligence measure.
onenote
(42,767 posts)Often laughably so. Like the time she broke the "exclusive" news that Devin Nunes had his "top secret" security clearance revoked, which would have been a neat trick since members of Congress don't get "security clearances" and any sanctions for violating their "secrecy oath" are handled internally by the intelligence committees and ethic committees pursuant to detailed procedural and substantive rules. Nunes not only remained chair of the intelligence committee but there was never any indication that he wasn't being given access to the same intelligence briefings as others on the committee.
Or the Manafort indictment, which Mensch breathlessly reported on September 22, 2017 as having been handed down and sealed which (a) wasn't true -- the indictment was handed down on October 27, 2017 and unsealed on October 30, 2017 and (b) came after mainstream news sources had reported (as early as September 18) that Manafort had been told he was going to be indicted.
Mensch relies on having low-information readers who don't follow other more reliable news sources. Which is how she can end up reporting BS like the Nunes story or her claim that the death penalty was being "considered" (by whom?) for Steve Bannon or that the marshal of the Supreme Court had been dispatched to "notify" Trump of the "formal" commencement of impeachment proceedings against him in May 2017. And on and on.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)she was wrong about the Manafort indictment?
I agree that she has been wrong about a number of things. But that particular item doesn't seem clear to me.
onenote
(42,767 posts)pnwmom
(108,995 posts)onenote
(42,767 posts)indictment.
The nice thing is that the docket for the Manafort case is available online. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6183591/united-states-v-manafort/
From reviewing it you can ascertain that there have been three superseding indictments -- One of February 18, 2018, one on February 23, 2018 and one on June 8, 2018 and one superseding Criminal Information (September 14, 2018) All have the same case number and are assigned the same judge.
The docket also confirms what I originally stated -- the original indictment was filed under seal on October 27, 2017 and then was unsealed on October 30.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)Do you happen to know why some documents (like the ones with Judge Ellis) all require you to buy them through Pacer, and others are available for free?
onenote
(42,767 posts)None of the stories I've read about the post-Comey firing investigation mentions a FISA warrant.
infullview
(982 posts)that we don't. Just because she can't piece it together in the context of U.S. government (America is a big continent) doesn't mean she doesn't have access to info that we common folk are unaware of.
sweetloukillbot
(11,070 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)Satch59
(1,353 posts)But never try to bring her up here since she seems not to be believed? I think she's been right more than wrong and with great detail.
infullview
(982 posts)Makes you wonder if there aren't people on this forum that inject disinformation in order to put a lid on stuff they don't want out there. Bill Palmer postulates that Mueller is releasing this info very slowly to get people ready for the horrific truth that our election was stolen, and a Russian traitor was installed as pResident of our country. The powers that be don't want people to loose faith in our democracy so they are slowly introducing this information and trying to justify why/how it happened.
triron
(22,020 posts)Many naysayers on DU.
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)that formal process of impeachment has begun?
Then no, she can't say shit.
Sid
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Frankly I was never certain whose side she's on as she made the Russia connection sound even more far-fetched and crazy than it initially looked. And now we know otherwise.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)I stopped listening to anything she says long ago. It's 95% bullshit, and 5% lucky guesses.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I remember they retweeted each other for most of 2017, and I stopped paying attention.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)I don't care about either of them.
infullview
(982 posts)A lot of them have dates and information that correspond with the information that is just now hitting MSM. I didn't say she had a crystal ball in my OP, I just said that she definitely has someone on the inside that is giving her bits of information and she takes guesses to fill in the picture - and I think it's much less than 95% bullshit. You are welcome to your opinion, but a lot of her musings have been spot on and more so over time.
BTW don't bother to troll me or pick a fight. I've almost deleted my profile on DU for all the attack posts I've had. DU seems to have a problem with giving it's users freedom to have a civil, open discussions without jumping all over its own members. I guess that's why so many people have quit lately.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)I watched what she wrote in the past. Soon enough, I dismissed her as someone trying to capitalize on a situation, whether she was right or wrong. I stopped paying any attention to her and her cohorts.
I don't mind if you like her. Why would that matter to me, either?
Trust me, I won't be trolling you. I don't troll anyone. You are free to post whatever you wish on DU, within the broad boundaries of what can stand here. This is the first time I've ever noticed your screen name and replied to a post from you.
Good luck.
infullview
(982 posts)You haven't seen me because it took a long time for me to come back to this forum. It was too contentions for a while and I just didn't want to participate.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)that if she threw enough pooh at the wall, some of her lucky guesses would stick
I'll go for 99.9% BS..
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Why be cruel, after all?
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)I'm not sure what is being referred to here specifically as I tuned her out a long time ago (maybe someone sent her something legit? I don't know). But practically everything that she has gotten right I've seen guessed by message board speculators before she ever reported on it (even on a couple videogame forums I visited lol). Mostly it's simple speculation based on publicly known info.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)FakeNoose
(32,767 posts)Here's the link: https://patribotics.blog/
She was early on the Trump/Russia bandwagon and she made many wild statements (guesses) that have been discussed at length in DU posts. It would seem that Ms. Mensch may have sources in the intelligence services, but she never has revealed her sources AFAIK. Two years ago some of her statements about Trump's treasonous activities seemed pretty wild, but now some are panning out. Among the DU crowd she has several fans, but other DUers have tuned her out.
For awhile she seemed to be in blogging competition with Malcolm Nance, but personally I found Mr. Nance to be more reliable, and he seems to have better info most of the time.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)demmiblue
(36,893 posts)Takket
(21,629 posts)and coming back 18 months later to see what stuck does not make one "correct". There are literally thousands of threads on DU about treason that are based every bit as much on assumptions and feelings as anything Mensch wrote. She drew traffic to her site by telling the left everything they WANTED to hear and the fact a few of the rumors she conflated turn out to ring with SOME truth doesn't make her correct about everything.
infullview
(982 posts)is consistent with what the media is talking about now. I was very clear that I believe she makes stuff up to fill in the blanks, but what I find interesting is she apparently had some inside info that formed the basis to her stories.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)isn't whether you are a Republican or Democrat, the question is are you a PATRIOT. Not all on the right are trumpsters and the tear it down people.
If people want to block their ears and go na na I can't hear you because you are a republican then I worry for those people. That is being the same close minded as the republicans that listen to nothing but fox.
onenote
(42,767 posts)She's rarely been right. She's often been wrong and laughably so. See post #16.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Can you be more specific on what insight she gave regarding those? Not sure exactly what you're refering to.
The existence of SIGINT and Five Eyes Surveillance isn't secret. One is signals intellegence, the other is a multinational intellegence alliance. Treason is something we've been talking about since the early stages of Trump's campaign.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)and others on his team via signals intelligence that the 5 eyes were sharing with Comey and with Mueller.
triron
(22,020 posts)Charlotte Little
(658 posts)but Louise Mensch makes subtle updates to her blog. She was busted doing that on Twitter over a year or so ago. I remember when she was first caught doing it. It was around the same time she was blocking people and then set up a mass block that others could use.
She is a right-wing operative. Always has been. The fact that she insisted Bannon would get the death penalty and Hatch would be POTUS by the time this was all over and Hatch is now gone and Bannon is walking around a free man, should wake up all the folks who still follow her. She's a grifter and a phony.