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sweetroxie

(776 posts)
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:01 PM Jan 2019

Chuck Toad just said that the FBI investigation clears Trump

Last edited Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't get it. Can someone talk me down?

Update: The phrase in question was said, not by CT but by one of his guests, Rebub. Cardenas. And it was said about the Mueller investigation not the FBI. Later transcript reveals my folly.

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Chuck Toad just said that the FBI investigation clears Trump (Original Post) sweetroxie Jan 2019 OP
Forget it Jake; it's Chinatown gratuitous Jan 2019 #1
underpants Jan 2019 #3
Whaaa?! He cant have said that,could he?! donkeypoofed Jan 2019 #2
Perhaps he said it because it's true? brooklynite Jan 2019 #4
What the hell? manor321 Jan 2019 #7
What was the actual quote? RHMerriman Jan 2019 #5
From what I read, that investigation was taken over by Mueller within days of his appointment Roland99 Jan 2019 #6
I believe he has a different objective FakeNoose Jan 2019 #8
My thought exactly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #20
It's the TV executives-- they are conservatives sharedvalues Jan 2019 #26
And Sinclair Broadcasting is the largest Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #40
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #47
Correct, the ratings matter most in media TV at140 Jan 2019 #34
Read Chuckies Bio. Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #38
I hear you - I never said he's a liberal FakeNoose Jan 2019 #42
Just a failed Campaing manager. Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #43
If it's Sunday...it's Meet The Press... Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #9
Was his source an FBI agent with a well thumbed copy of Clinton Cash? exboyfil Jan 2019 #10
Grrrrr. On that STUPID Clinton Cash Book. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #46
I watched that show today Mme. Defarge Jan 2019 #11
I agree. CT didn't say that. Raven Jan 2019 #13
What did he say? brush Jan 2019 #24
agreed the whole panel was worried about trump and this insanity. mucifer Jan 2019 #18
And you would be right. obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2019 #33
I recorded it GP6971 Jan 2019 #12
Meet the Press today? Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #14
I thought... Mike Nelson Jan 2019 #15
I watched part of MTP, didn't hear him say that. I've been trying to find anything on Twitter or highplainsdem Jan 2019 #16
If you believe that then.... FarPoint Jan 2019 #17
Okay, just found the MTP transcript, and a section with a similar remark by someone else, different highplainsdem Jan 2019 #19
That clears up the confusion, thank you Miles Archer Jan 2019 #29
If it's the Al Cardenas quote, klook Jan 2019 #31
Thanks for finding Mme. Defarge Jan 2019 #41
Are you talking about the 36:20 mark of the video? He absolutely does not say that Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #21
Yep. See the excerpt from the transcript above. highplainsdem Jan 2019 #22
This thread just got my blood pressure up for 5 minutes and me Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #23
Chuck Toad has to keep stirring the pot ... more viewers, more cash for MSNBC/Comcast. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2019 #25
You need to delete this thread asap. It's not true. There is a transcript... brush Jan 2019 #27
He's all fake equalization, so can we assume he's saying Hillary's "cleared" also? Hortensis Jan 2019 #28
Chuck Todd is a fraud and a clown JDC Jan 2019 #30
I don't think he could possibly know one way or the other, but.... aikoaiko Jan 2019 #32
He would have no way of knowing. The case was probably turned over to Mueller. Vinca Jan 2019 #35
Based on the transcripts he did not say that. honest.abe Jan 2019 #36
This post should be deleted! triron Jan 2019 #37
the toad apparently reads and comprehends as well as rump shanny Jan 2019 #39
"talk you down"?? You post something absolutely not true book_worm Jan 2019 #44
Hit and Run Poster onenote Jan 2019 #45
then blaming others for getting it wrong CreekDog Jan 2019 #51
I'll wager your 466 posts that he didn't say that CreekDog Jan 2019 #48
I'm not going to delete this thread sweetroxie Jan 2019 #49
it takes a lot of courage to correct one's post CreekDog Jan 2019 #50
huh ? so you are were wrong but something something something something ........................ JI7 Jan 2019 #52

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
2. Whaaa?! He cant have said that,could he?!
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:04 PM
Jan 2019

Then he now belongs solidly in the "Too stupid to live" camp and needs to be taken out of the gene pool immediately.

brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
4. Perhaps he said it because it's true?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jan 2019

There's a major distinction between colluding with the Russians and working for them. And this investigation was back in 2016; if there had been heard evidence, wouldn't they have brought it forward?

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
7. What the hell?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

We have no idea what happened to the investigation. It may have gone to Mueller. Since there is no report, then the claim can't be true. What a ridiculous thing to say.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
5. What was the actual quote?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jan 2019

What was the actual quote?

Because it is a safe bet the only people who know what the SC staff are the SC staff, and they aren't going to let something slip to Chuck Todd...

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
6. From what I read, that investigation was taken over by Mueller within days of his appointment
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:10 PM
Jan 2019

IOW, Chuck Toadie is full of shit

FakeNoose

(32,739 posts)
8. I believe he has a different objective
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

Chuck Todd has to book people on Meet the Press - that's his main gig on NBC. The rightwingers won't come on his show if they believe he's going to sandbag them or start ragging on Trump, McConnell and the rest of the GOP. I believe he has to walk a fine line to keep those rightwingers coming on his show.

Also, his boss Andrew Lack probably made him say that. I'm not kidding. They can't make Rachel or Lawrence say crap like that, but Todd gets jerked around a lot.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
26. It's the TV executives-- they are conservatives
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:04 PM
Jan 2019

Cable News is owned and managed by Republicans. Even MSNBC.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
40. And Sinclair Broadcasting is the largest
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:12 PM
Jan 2019

owner of Affiliated Stations. And you are not going to get much more Right wing.

at140

(6,110 posts)
34. Correct, the ratings matter most in media TV
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:29 PM
Jan 2019

not complicated at all to understand why TV talking heads say illogical things.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
9. If it's Sunday...it's Meet The Press...
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:13 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:54 AM - Edit history (1)

Hopefully he mis-spoke. He will be on the wrong side of history on this. However, it does shed light on the few media news shows that start, and give wayyy too much time to 'what about ism', 'both sides do it', and smugly conjecturizing defenses for the gop everyday on their shows. CT has been particularly aggregious of never failing to suggest, a possible innocent answer for some bad gop behavior. All in the name of "fairness and debate". in my humble estimation. Just speaking generally on a routine week for him. Not today.
Hopefully he's tired. I miss Tim Russert.

mucifer

(23,562 posts)
18. agreed the whole panel was worried about trump and this insanity.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jan 2019

It was not lopsided pro republican. It was weird.

GP6971

(31,203 posts)
12. I recorded it
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jan 2019

but haven't watched it yet. I'll see if I can put it in context when I watch it later.

Quixote1818

(28,967 posts)
14. Meet the Press today?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jan 2019

Can you give me a time stamp from the video? I can't find where he said that at all:

Mike Nelson

(9,966 posts)
15. I thought...
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:20 PM
Jan 2019

… he was still being investigated? I'm not sure it'll even be done by February, as has been stated.

highplainsdem

(49,032 posts)
16. I watched part of MTP, didn't hear him say that. I've been trying to find anything on Twitter or
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:21 PM
Jan 2019

Google about Todd saying that or anything similar, and so far nothing has turned up.

highplainsdem

(49,032 posts)
19. Okay, just found the MTP transcript, and a section with a similar remark by someone else, different
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:26 PM
Jan 2019

meaning.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-january-13-2019-n958141


PEGGY NOONAN:

You'd say, "That's a little over the top." My only thought, coming out of this, beyond astonishment, is the thought that, you know, "Congress must know something about this." Because indeed, they probably have been dealing with the F.B.I. on this. They knew a few things. I also think, "My goodness, this Mueller report, if this is what we're talking about, could we please get it out there quickly?"

CHUCK TODD:

Yeah. It's funny. It's like, we're sitting in the shutdown, Cornell. And you have this out there. It does color everything that we’re -- that’s facing us right now.

CORNELL BELCHER:

Well, you know, I think two things. One is, I want to underline, sort of, the -- all the people around the Trump campaign involvement, sort of, touching base with Russians. Because, you know, we learned that they passed polling information on to the Russians, Chuck. As a campaign pollster, our polls and our campaigns are sort of what you see, you know, a horse shot. You know the horse race. It is strategic, right? What we're doing, in these polls, we are outlining strategy and decisions and where you should target. And for a campaign to be giving it to the Russians, how is that not collusion, right? I don't know if it's collusion in a court. But certainly, in the public opinion, it has to be. I think it smells like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck. It is, in fact, a duck. It's hard for you to say, that's not collusion.

AL CARDENAS:

I'll say this. The other side of the situation here is, for some reason, the Mueller investigation clears President Trump. I mean, that's a death blow to a lot of Democrats’ hopes, as well.

CHUCK TODD:

Yeah, that's a fair point.

CAROL LEE:

And the White House is preparing. You know, they're ready for, basically, a street fight over this. I mean, they're saying that they're going to exert executive privilege and say that they want to see the report. They're going to try to block certain parts of the report.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
29. That clears up the confusion, thank you
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:10 PM
Jan 2019
The other side of the situation here is, for some reason, the Mueller investigation clears President Trump. I mean, that's a death blow to a lot of Democrats’ hopes, as well.


Since we honestly have no idea how Mueller will conclude, we don't know how damning it will be. I seriously doubt that Trump will be "cleared." It may exceed expectations, it may disappoint on some level, it could be anywhere in between. So the statement is more of a "Let's play devil's advocate" remark than an exoneration of Trump. No one said that.

klook

(12,165 posts)
31. If it's the Al Cardenas quote,
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

yes, it’s a hell of a different meaning!

AL CARDENAS:
The other side of the situation here is, for some reason, the Mueller investigation clears President Trump. I mean, that's a death blow to a lot of Democrats’ hopes, as well.

He left out the key word “if.” Since the Mueller report hasn’t come out yet, clearly he means “...if for some reason, the Mueller investigation clears President Trump....”

Not sure if that’s what everybody’s talking about, but I haven’t yet seen a quote showing that Chuck Todd stated that the FBI or Mueller investigations cleared Trump.

Quixote1818

(28,967 posts)
21. Are you talking about the 36:20 mark of the video? He absolutely does not say that
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:27 PM
Jan 2019

A Republican strategist throws it out there as possible and Chuck Todd just says "Fair Point".


Quixote1818

(28,967 posts)
23. This thread just got my blood pressure up for 5 minutes and me
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 08:33 PM
Jan 2019

frantically trying to figure out what was said for no reason.

Looks like you too.

brush

(53,841 posts)
27. You need to delete this thread asap. It's not true. There is a transcript...
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jan 2019

and a video on this thread that show Todd just responded, "Fair point", to another panelist who wonder what would result if the FBI cleared trump.

Delete this, please.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
32. I don't think he could possibly know one way or the other, but....
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:18 PM
Jan 2019

...we should be prepared there may not be enough on Trump directly.

Mueller appears to be a careful, fastidious, and conservative investigator. He won't hype anything.

If its there, its there, but if Mueller says it is not, then I'll believe him.

This is why I support Pelosi's strategy of waiting for the Mueller investigation to conclude before pulling the impeachment trigger.


book_worm

(15,951 posts)
44. "talk you down"?? You post something absolutely not true
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jan 2019

and then never reply to anything on the post again.

sweetroxie

(776 posts)
49. I'm not going to delete this thread
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:49 AM
Jan 2019

I watched last night. Had no transcript in front of me or no recording of the show to check out. I heard those words on the fly and they triggered me-- as the transcript shows someone, Cardenas actually said it. It came and went fast. And I didn't remember who exactly said it. So sue me.

I hold CT responsible for his guests, to some degree. And there are lots of people out there who believe what was said.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
50. it takes a lot of courage to correct one's post
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:41 AM
Jan 2019

but you didn't and decided to leave up a post you knew was in error anyway even if it harmed people by misleading them.

it takes courage to correct a mistake.

it doesn't take courage to not correct one.

we all make our choices.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
52. huh ? so you are were wrong but something something something something ........................
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:23 AM
Jan 2019
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