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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:56 PM Jan 2019

How Tax Reform Could Effectively Destroy This $6,332 Tax Deduction for Millions

Many people have looked forward all year to seeing what impact the new tax laws will have on their 2018 tax returns. With lower tax rates, higher standard deductions, and a host of other important changes, there will be many winners -- and some losers -- from the tax reform measures that lawmakers passed in late 2017.

Yet there's one group that's highly concerned about potential unintended consequences of tax reform. Nothing happened to change the itemized deduction for charitable contributions, but the increase in the standard deduction has charitable organizations worried that if taxpayers don't get any additional benefit from itemizing, they won't have the same financial incentive to keep giving money. That in turn could wreak havoc with charities' budgets.

Donations to charity and your taxes

For years, the federal government has rewarded those who make donations to charitable organizations that have passed IRS muster. Those organizations that demonstrate a commitment to a religious, education, scientific, or literary purpose can apply with the IRS for tax-exempt status as what's known as a 501(c)(3) organization. That enables most donors to write off their donations as itemized deductions, with generous maximum limits of 50% of adjusted gross income for the vast majority of taxpayers.

Traditionally, that's been a huge incentive to get people to give. In 2016, the most recent year for which IRS data is available, nearly 37 million taxpayers included charitable donations on their schedule of itemized deductions. Those gifts approached $234 billion in total, working out to an average deduction of $6,332 per return.

When you look closely at exactly how people donated, more than two-thirds of deductible donations came in the form of cash or a check. That left just a third to come in the form of other gifts. That includes not only in-kind gifts of non-perishable food items, apparel, or automobiles, but also gifts of stock and other appreciated investments. The benefit of simple cash gifts is that there's very little documentation required, whereas in-kind gifts require anything from a simple acknowledgment from the charity in question to a formal appraisal for large donations.

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Isn't altruism not a tax break the reason one should give to charity? That said I'm skeptical about this so called tax reform.

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How Tax Reform Could Effectively Destroy This $6,332 Tax Deduction for Millions (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 OP
Not for trump's tax scam, but you are right. The fact one might not save a bit Hoyt Jan 2019 #1
One can give more for the same out-of-pocket cost if one is getting a deduction progree Jan 2019 #2
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Not for trump's tax scam, but you are right. The fact one might not save a bit
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jan 2019

on taxes for several thousand in contributions shouldn’t be the determining factor. Although, I’m sure it will have some impact.

I think most big contributors won’t even think about increase in standard deduction, nor will most people making over $80,000 or so for whom the Standard Deduction likely doesn’t matter.

progree

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2. One can give more for the same out-of-pocket cost if one is getting a deduction
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 03:23 AM
Jan 2019
Isn't altruism not a tax break the reason one should give to charity? That said I'm skeptical about this so called tax reform.


Example: if I'm in the 22% tax bracket and state income tax is 7%, for a combined total of 29% tax rate, then a $2000 gift (after taxes) from me is $2816 to the charity.

Oh, I know, I'm probably a bit of a fuckhead, but yes, I work hard at it to maximize the impact of my charitable contributions. I also read a lot of literature on this subject too, so I know a lot of other retired people work at this too. E.g. Qualified Charitable Distributions from an IRA.

Another way is to be a scrooge for a year or two, and then give a big contribution that, along with other deductions, will blow past the standard deduction.

Another way is with a donor advised fund (DAF) -- contribute a large amount to a DAF in one year so that, along with other deductions, will blow past the standard deduction and so get the tax break. One is then allowed to distribute from the DAF to charities over a number of years as one sees fit.

Another: give away property, e.g. stocks that has a high capital gains, direct to the charity (don't sell the stock first -- give the actual stock to the charity). That way, the charity gets the full market value of the stock. Neither the charity nor I pay capital gains tax on it.

I gave my farm away to PopulationConnection.org in 2016, and you can bet that I spent plenty of time working through the tax implications. (Still am, along with coordinating it with my Roth conversions). (Full disclosure: I got a charitable gift annuity in return, so considering the value of that and tax breaks, the net cost to me was maybe 1/4 the value of the farm).
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