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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:18 PM Jan 2019

Some of Jayme Closs's amazing good fortune...

The dog walker who was the first contact, was a retired social worker for child services. Plus, she happened to be just 500 yards from Jayme’s escape. What timing!

Jayme’s aunt and now guardian, had been Jayme’s child care provider growing up. They REALLY know each other.

Jayme has two dogs to love, hold and be with. This right here is major.

Locals are offering services in supportive ways. The beauty salon has offered to do her hair and anything else she wants. They will clear out the salon and she can have privacy.

In a lot of ways, a small community/town is a blessing. The whole town is stepping up as family.


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Some of Jayme Closs's amazing good fortune... (Original Post) Equinox Moon Jan 2019 OP
Living in a small town it is amazing to see the town pull together rurallib Jan 2019 #1
If you can consider it "good fortune" to see your parents murdered... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #2
I understand your post, yet, Equinox Moon Jan 2019 #3
Amen. lamp_shade Jan 2019 #16
I've worked as a volunteer with refugees - the strong ones make it through. LisaM Jan 2019 #4
I think it's pretty rare for a captive to escape alive Poiuyt Jan 2019 #10
Most horrible thought is not being able to return to the arms of her parents when it was over lostnfound Jan 2019 #19
Unfortunately the killer had some luck too GusBob Jan 2019 #5
WOW... everything was so close to ending sooner and less horrific. Equinox Moon Jan 2019 #7
Maybe GusBob Jan 2019 #9
"-her dog alert them there was an intruder but her dad didn't grab his gun or take precaution" USALiberal Jan 2019 #15
Not every time no GusBob Jan 2019 #18
I just read the horrid confession details. joshcryer Jan 2019 #17
She will need tons of therapy. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #6
I did hear in the new reports that Jayme has professionals ready when she is. Equinox Moon Jan 2019 #8
She is likely in shock and will be for a while. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #12
She has already been interviewed by the cops GusBob Jan 2019 #11
Some for sure. But many people are much more resilient & balanced than others give credit. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #13
All the attention is probably hard on her. I heard that she's quiet and a bit shy. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #14
She had to make do with ill fitting footwear, in a Wisconsin winter. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #20
I agree. A very brave girl. Think about how young she is. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #21

rurallib

(62,445 posts)
1. Living in a small town it is amazing to see the town pull together
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jan 2019

so glad this one had a (somewhat) happy ending.

I so wish Ms. Closs nothing but good fortune from here on out.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
2. If you can consider it "good fortune" to see your parents murdered...
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:14 PM
Jan 2019

...and then spend months as the captive/slave of their murderer — well, I guess it’s a lot better than what more could have happened, but I thing “good fortune” applied to any of Jayme’s experience is probably pushing it.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
3. I understand your post, yet,
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jan 2019

There is an ongoing story unfolding in the press and my post part of that process of what we are learning.

The horrors are indisputable. This was a post about the good things that are helping her along the way.
Okay?

LisaM

(27,828 posts)
4. I've worked as a volunteer with refugees - the strong ones make it through.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jan 2019

Many others don't. So they indisputably had bad, or horrific luck or circumstances that led to their being refugees, many saw their families murdered, and had to go through all kinds of terrible things just to survive - yet they did. They had more luck than others in their situation, it's just a relative thing. I think there are things working in her favor now that she's freed herself from this monster.

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
10. I think it's pretty rare for a captive to escape alive
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jan 2019

I live in Wisconsin, so we were hearing about this case all the time. Usually the end of the story is when they find the body.

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
19. Most horrible thought is not being able to return to the arms of her parents when it was over
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:58 AM
Jan 2019

Like the little boy in Iraq who lost his arms, his legs, and his parents in the same bombing.
Waking up after such trauma, it is so unfair that he had no parents to hold him.

I’m glad she was close to her aunt and has dogs.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. Unfortunately the killer had some luck too
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jan 2019

Read the criminal complaint today

-the cops passed his car with her in the trunk on the way to the crime scene. Jayme heard the sirens
-they missed him by 20 seconds at the scene
-her dog alert them there was an intruder but her dad didn’t grab his gun or take precautions
-they dialed 911 too late by a few seconds
-he hid her under his bed while people came to visit
-he asked her mother to tape her mouth, hands and feet, her hands were shaking so he set down the shotgun to help her ( their last chance to fight back)
-his car the same one the cop noticed the first night had a tail light out when they caught him 88 days later. He could have been pulled over for that anytime

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
9. Maybe
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jan 2019

In the complaint he stated he would have shot any cop who tried to stop him

He only had 3 shots left so who knows

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
15. "-her dog alert them there was an intruder but her dad didn't grab his gun or take precaution"
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:09 PM
Jan 2019

So EVERY TIME someones dog barks you think people should grab a gun? FFS.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
18. Not every time no
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jan 2019

But if someone is banging on the door at 1am yelling at you.....you take precautions

It sure would have helped out this time



joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
17. I just read the horrid confession details.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:50 PM
Jan 2019

Truly horrific what this dude did and gives you pause.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
6. She will need tons of therapy.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:20 PM
Jan 2019

Will a professional volunteer those services? When Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped she had to testify against her kidnappers in court several years after the incident. That is really difficult for someone to do, especially a young victim.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
8. I did hear in the new reports that Jayme has professionals ready when she is.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jan 2019

Elizabeth Smart has reached out to the family as well, offering her support when Jayme is ready.

The family said Jayme is in good spirits and laughing at times. She does not talk about any of it.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
12. She is likely in shock and will be for a while.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jan 2019

I don't think you are supposed to pressure them to open up until they are ready or else they could harm any progress toward healing. Elizabeth Smart relied on her Mormon faith a lot as well as her strong, supportive family. I hope she speaks to Smart before she has to testify against him.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
11. She has already been interviewed by the cops
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jan 2019

Amazingly she gave them eyewitness information which the killer corroborated

Some of it is heartbreaking

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,034 posts)
13. Some for sure. But many people are much more resilient & balanced than others give credit.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:55 PM
Jan 2019

There are a lot of solid well adjusted people out. And a lot of whackos too.

However, 13 is a young age. She will need help with some perspective because of that youth, but youth is also a blessing in that she still has time to grow up healthy and stable and happy.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. All the attention is probably hard on her. I heard that she's quiet and a bit shy.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:57 PM
Jan 2019

But this is so heartwarming. I'm so glad she has her doggies and a loving aunt to take care of her. Lucky girl. And brave. Even if all she had to do was walk out the door of his house, at least she did it. Many kidnapped people are too scared to do that.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
20. She had to make do with ill fitting footwear, in a Wisconsin winter.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jan 2019

I recall that it was reported she was wearing too large men's shoes when she escaped. He probably took away her shoes to help keep her detained or she didn't get to take any when he took her. She probably couldn't run and was likely only able to walk on the road - knowing that he could come back at any time.

500 yards is still a significant distance in snow without proper footwear.

It says a lot about her that she was able to escape after this long.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. I agree. A very brave girl. Think about how young she is.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jan 2019

At 13, well...that's so young. The whole country is so happy that she's okay. So happy.

These scum of the earth deadbeats often kill or harm really good people who are an asset to the world.

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