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applegrove

(118,830 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 12:45 AM Jan 2019

Trump's very private meetings are a huge favor to Putin

Trump's very private meetings are a huge favor to Putin

By Samantha Vinograd at CNN

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/13/opinions/presidential-weekly-briefing-putin-private-meetings-vinograd/index.html

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Despite the President and his team's denials regarding allegations that he tried to conceal the contents of his meetings with Putin, reporting indicating that he went to extraordinary measures to do just that will add to Putin's perception that he's in the driver's seat. More to the point, Putin will feel like he can manipulate any narrative about the meetings. He may even try to spread theories (whether warranted or not) that there was an intent to conceal evidence of a crime -- whether criminal or counterintelligence related -- because that undermines the credibility of the President himself. Absent our own records of the meeting, we have nothing we can use to counter any Russian misinformation about what happened.

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Even worse, giving the Russian government sensitive information that US officials do not have -- information on what was discussed in meetings between Putin and Trump -- also represents a major operational risk. The Russian government likely has more knowledge than our own administration does on key bilateral policy discussions, including Israel, which Trump acknowledged that they discussed.

It's also an intelligence win for Putin. Russian officials' access to this sensitive information represents a potential bribery point the Putin can use against Trump at a later date. Russia can threaten to release parts of presidential conversations if, for example, Trump threatens to do something that they don't like. In short, by concealing the contents of his meetings, the President is opening the door for Putin to manipulate him and use him as an asset.

Because the President has given Putin and his team a leg up on the US government, Putin may also try to benefit from any perceptions that the President prefers playing for the Russians more than he does for the US. Putin gets bonus points in this scenario because, by failing to treat his team with the same consideration that he treats Russia, Trump is implying a lack of confidence in his own institutions and officials.

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Trump's very private meetings are a huge favor to Putin (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2019 OP
We are so screwed Tracyjo Jan 2019 #1
The stable genius doesn't get that the secrecy left him open for blackmail later. brush Jan 2019 #2
This seems to be one item: Withdraw from NATO, in effect giving Europe to Putin dalton99a Jan 2019 #3
I just read that. My jaw is still on the floor. Trump is dyslexic and we are applegrove Jan 2019 #4
K&R TeamPooka Jan 2019 #5

brush

(53,918 posts)
2. The stable genius doesn't get that the secrecy left him open for blackmail later.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:00 AM
Jan 2019

Such a genius, so smart it hurts. It hurts I tell ya.

As long as this fool is president the Secret Service, the FBI, the intel agencies, the chief of staff, the SOS—anybody, everybody should never ever ever ever ever allow this fool alone with Putin.

EVER!

dalton99a

(81,635 posts)
3. This seems to be one item: Withdraw from NATO, in effect giving Europe to Putin
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:03 AM
Jan 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/nato-president-trump.html

Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia
By Julian E. Barnes and Helene Cooper
Jan. 14, 2019

WASHINGTON — There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, the military alliance among the United States, Europe and Canada that has deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years.

Last year, President Trump suggested a move tantamount to destroying NATO: the withdrawal of the United States.

Senior administration officials told The New York Times that several times over the course of 2018, Mr. Trump privately said he wanted to withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Current and former officials who support the alliance said they feared Mr. Trump could return to his threat as allied military spending continued to lag behind the goals the president had set.

In the days around a tumultuous NATO summit meeting last summer, they said, Mr. Trump told his top national security officials that he did not see the point of the military alliance, which he presented as a drain on the United States.

applegrove

(118,830 posts)
4. I just read that. My jaw is still on the floor. Trump is dyslexic and we are
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 01:08 AM
Jan 2019

herd averse. Good when your job is as a dyslexic to see things in a wide scope, then the big picture. Regular people might miss those things on the edge of the perspective. Bad when you are Trump who never looks at the big picture but is averse to his own herd and likes the authoritarians instead. And thinks of getting rid of NATO.

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