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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:50 PM Jan 2019

One of my first posts here was about the possibility of civil war.

I was nailed, people thought I was a troll. Now I sense we could see it if Trump is impeached, the southern racists will come out of the woodwork to fight. They are all armed and we should be concerned. They fear the brown or black man and will do anything to stop what they see as a takeover of their white country.

I think I was right then, and I fear it now.

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One of my first posts here was about the possibility of civil war. (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 OP
I do not believe you are a Toll at all and bluestarone Jan 2019 #1
It's not just sagetea Jan 2019 #2
Yes I agree, lots of them in Indiana where we used to live. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #3
Wasn't Indiana the original home of the KKK? hedda_foil Jan 2019 #5
Yes, I had the Klan sitting outside my house for a while. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #7
They were probably busy sitting outside your house. hedda_foil Jan 2019 #11
They were sitting there because I helped the Black students at Purdue and was quite vocal. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #13
While they may take up arms, (I agree can happen), they can't out-gun our military... Shell_Seas Jan 2019 #4
Provided the military will fight for us and not their racist relatives. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #6
My thoughts too bluestarone Jan 2019 #14
Conservatives have already been in a civil war with us, that's how it was easy for the kgb Baltimike Jan 2019 #8
The same here in Okie land, as long as the libs are suffering they are happy. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #9
And when they dish it, they can't take it. nt Baltimike Jan 2019 #10
We've been in a civil cold war since the 80s. Initech Jan 2019 #20
My only criticism of our last GREAT elected president Baltimike Jan 2019 #25
Let them come out with their fucking muskets maxrandb Jan 2019 #12
I don't think you are a troll, but I don't think it will get that far marylandblue Jan 2019 #15
With all do respect, you don't live down here. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #16
Down where? left_of_center Jan 2019 #19
South of the mason dixon line. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #21
The poster's handle involves Maryland, which is indeed sout of the M/D line. nt Baltimike Jan 2019 #26
Well I don't consider them "south" Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma those are southern states. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #30
I grew up in Oklahoma but lived in Illinois for 10 years Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #33
Even though I don't live there, I understand what you mean marylandblue Jan 2019 #24
Not just MAWA but also MACA with a new Governor and Fist Lady who avebury Jan 2019 #32
Cool Story, Bro , ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #17
Well I am a sister but never mind. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #22
Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Cambodia sfwriter Jan 2019 #18
Think a mix of Yugoslavia and India's Partition day from 1947. roamer65 Jan 2019 #37
I'm leaned my towrd Cambodia... sfwriter Jan 2019 #39
we already are handmade34 Jan 2019 #23
Still a crackpot conspiracy theory brooklynite Jan 2019 #27
I hear people here talk about it all the time. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #29
...and Ii hear people here talk about national strikes... brooklynite Jan 2019 #34
Maybe you should find a better group of people to hang around with. cwydro Jan 2019 #35
You hear it on RW talk radio all the time. sfwriter Jan 2019 #40
More like lone wolf zipplewrath Jan 2019 #28
Not really, not down here. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #31
Untrained, unorganized and uncoordinated zipplewrath Jan 2019 #36
I'm "down here" in NC. cwydro Jan 2019 #38
States won't secede over a Trump impeachment. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #41

bluestarone

(17,062 posts)
1. I do not believe you are a Toll at all and
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jan 2019

I also feel it's totally possible with this turdface AND he owns the senate too (and he's working on the AG and Supreme Court)

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. Yes I agree, lots of them in Indiana where we used to live.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:57 PM
Jan 2019

They are more open about it here in Oklahoma.

Shell_Seas

(3,336 posts)
4. While they may take up arms, (I agree can happen), they can't out-gun our military...
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jan 2019

Any type of uprising like this would likely be squashed pretty quickly.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. Provided the military will fight for us and not their racist relatives.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:01 PM
Jan 2019

Sorry but a great deal of the military is made up of southern and other groups who are racist.

Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
8. Conservatives have already been in a civil war with us, that's how it was easy for the kgb
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jan 2019

And fuck all to those that say the kgb doesn't exist anymore, because they're just enabling those Russian motherfuckers.

I am fluent in redneck. Fluent. They don't give a shit as long as they "stick it to the libs".

But a bully backs down when you start dishing it back.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
20. We've been in a civil cold war since the 80s.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jan 2019

And it's got worse since Obama got elected. Conservatives have been cranking the hate up way past 11. And it's only going to get worse before it gets better.

Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
25. My only criticism of our last GREAT elected president
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jan 2019

was the he was way too nice to them.

He kept putting his wishbone where his backbone needed to be and I think it was way too late when he found out what they were REALLY up to

maxrandb

(15,362 posts)
12. Let them come out with their fucking muskets
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

Frankly, these kind of people just piss me the fuck off, and our country would be better off with less of them.

These fucks who want their AK47 and assault weapons with 100 round drum magazines have obviously never seen a Marine Expeditionary Unit in action.

I don't give a fuck how many rounds they have to jerk off to at night, they try shit against the United States and they'll be turned into pink vapor before they can yell; "Benghazi"!!!

Virginia, California and Hawaii are home to the largest Naval bases in the fucking world. What are they going to do when the Carrier Air Wing comes for them? Throw their little AK47's at an F18?

That's why when I hear them talk shit, I'm reminded of that scene in Lethal Weapon; "Don't just nibble on the barrel, pull the fucking trigger"!!

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
15. I don't think you are a troll, but I don't think it will get that far
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:14 PM
Jan 2019

More likely to be limited to civil unrest than an actual war.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
16. With all do respect, you don't live down here.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jan 2019

These people are crazy, they hate blacks, browns, yellows, LGBT anyone who is not male, white and Christian. They are SCARY! I have been down here 17years, they are willing to got to war to keep American White. It is not about MAGA it is about MAWA.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
30. Well I don't consider them "south" Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma those are southern states.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jan 2019

I guess I should have been more specific.

Bradshaw3

(7,533 posts)
33. I grew up in Oklahoma but lived in Illinois for 10 years
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:07 PM
Jan 2019

Saw about as many racists in southern Illinois as in Oklahoma. Saw a lot of supporters of the U of I "chief" mascot - which was a white guy prancing around like the cliche of an Indian dancing - who were racist in that instance yet voted for Obama. Point is, you can't make blanket judgments like you have. Oklahoma is not a southern state but a border state, with the southeastern part like Arkansas, the southern like Texas and the northern part more like Kansas and you have the Native American contributions - with all the historical and societal influences you would expect. After the Civil War thousands of free blacks migrated there from the south and started small communities like Boley. Of course there was also overt racism like sundown towns in the state and the terrible Tulsa "riot" that was actually whites rampaging and killing blacks. Those same type of murderous riots also took place in northern cities in that time period.

Town I grew up in had more than its share of racists but elected a black mayor in the 80s. There are good people there, you just have to look for them.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
24. Even though I don't live there, I understand what you mean
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jan 2019

The civil unrest could be very bad, and they may even get what they want through a resulting "national emergency." The scale of violence could be enough that people will be frightened into accepting it, which is something that has happened in other countries.

It's also possible that union will break up. Unlike the last break-up most of us will be happy to see the other half go.

Just my opinion.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
32. Not just MAWA but also MACA with a new Governor and Fist Lady who
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:01 PM
Jan 2019

think that they need to make Oklahoma for Christians only.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
18. Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Cambodia
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jan 2019

Our civil war will much more resemble those civil wars. It will be a house to house cleansing of the “libtards” I suspect. It will be localized at first, likely in response to some issue. At first, we’ll see it as a spike in right wing violence only to discover it is organized. It will be preceded by a big lie, wrapped in the flag, and like kelt carting a cross.

I’ve thought this was coming ever since I first heard Sarah Palin speak. If on side refuses to compromise and vilifies the other side, such conflict is inevitable.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
37. Think a mix of Yugoslavia and India's Partition day from 1947.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

That would be just about spot on. Some states like NY, CA and New England would have already seceded.

brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
27. Still a crackpot conspiracy theory
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jan 2019

First there's no evidence that a bunch of angry armed individuals are going to engage in any significant violence that couldn't be contained by local police (question: what is it you imagine they're going to do: march on Washington? Take Congress hostage?). Second, there's definitely no evidence that the military would join them, and civil authorities are far better armed and trained.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
29. I hear people here talk about it all the time.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jan 2019

They don't care who hears them, they feel so strongly that if Trump is removed they will revolt. They are all heavily armed. Maybe this is stilly, but it is frightening.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
35. Maybe you should find a better group of people to hang around with.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jan 2019

I live in the south, in a red county no less, and I’ve never heard ANYONE talk like that.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
40. You hear it on RW talk radio all the time.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jan 2019

I heard on of them calling an impeachment “regicide” and saying it would be time to use the “2nd amendment” option.

They certainly think it could happen.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
28. More like lone wolf
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jan 2019

Single shooter shooting at civil servants and the like.
Alternately, something like we saw up in Oregon or the Bundy fiasco.
But really, as pissed as they are, they are very poorly organized.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
36. Untrained, unorganized and uncoordinated
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:10 PM
Jan 2019

I live down "here" too. You might get 20 of them doing something stupid. Like someone suggested, if some actual military outfit went nuts, they'd have a chance of making a fuss. An out of control county sheriff might cause some trouble. But any actual organization large enough to cause a "war" doesn't exist.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
38. I'm "down here" in NC.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jan 2019

Sorry, but it sounds like you know a lot of nutcases.

Never heard that nonsense here.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
41. States won't secede over a Trump impeachment.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:42 PM
Jan 2019

There could be acts of violence but that’s normal when conservatives get angry.
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