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Trump directed Cohen to lie about Moscow trump tower meeting (Original Post) Gothmog Jan 2019 OP
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #1
Boom Gothmog Jan 2019 #2
Commanding someone to lie to Congress C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #3
'Lordy...' Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #36
This is huge... Nevermypresident Jan 2019 #4
One more nail Andy823 Jan 2019 #5
Here is more from my twitter feed Gothmog Jan 2019 #6
Impeach the MF'er NOW. roamer65 Jan 2019 #7
Going viral now. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #8
It's on CNN as well TrogL Jan 2019 #33
O'Donnell discussing this on his show now. Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #9
I can't WAIT till he testify before the House. Basement Beat Jan 2019 #10
Normally, this would be enough to impeach. But there is no normal any more Cousin Dupree Jan 2019 #11
There had better be tapes superpatriotman Jan 2019 #12
Natasha Bertrand said Mueller has receipts, OliverQ Jan 2019 #17
If you read the article, it says that Nevermypresident Jan 2019 #19
Kick dalton99a Jan 2019 #13
MSNBC is reporting on this Gothmog Jan 2019 #14
WP: Democrats demand investigation after report that Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress dalton99a Jan 2019 #47
If this isn't grounds for impeachment, then I give up all hope. n/t Coventina Jan 2019 #15
In how many business hours will Trump be indicted? Dennis Donovan Jan 2019 #16
from Rick Wilson: Nevermypresident Jan 2019 #18
+100 Duppers Jan 2019 #24
This is a BIG FUCKING DEAL! Cohen's going to jail, trump's going to Mar-a-Lago. George II Jan 2019 #20
Congressman Swalwell- this is consciousness of guilt Gothmog Jan 2019 #21
Abso.fuckin.lutely!! Duppers Jan 2019 #25
No Matter How Much Evidence Is Revealed, Tea Party Repukes Will Never Believe It! DoctorJoJo Jan 2019 #22
Well they can just put their false teeth in Duppers Jan 2019 #26
From November: Leopold WeekiWater Jan 2019 #23
According to AG nominee, this is a crime Gothmog Jan 2019 #27
Makes me wonder moondust Jan 2019 #30
She knew malaise Jan 2019 #57
She knew!! MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #32
I think that you are correct Gothmog Jan 2019 #39
Amy Punching up the charges. And he's saying yes. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #37
Amy May have some advanced knowledge here Gothmog Jan 2019 #43
Sure sounds like shes firing on all cylinders doesnt it? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #44
Yep Gothmog Jan 2019 #50
CROOK. slumcamper Jan 2019 #28
He could still shoot someone on 5th and get away with it n/t hibbing Jan 2019 #29
Said it before...I bet he did. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #46
Line this Mo-Fo up with Pence right now. Indict. Impeach. ffr Jan 2019 #31
And what about the Supreme Court Justices? ANNUL. ANNUL. ANNUL. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #38
True, but we have to start somewhere. ffr Jan 2019 #40
hahahaha. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #41
A twofer! Midnightwalk Jan 2019 #34
OMG. Resign muthafukkah. Glimmer of Hope Jan 2019 #35
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2019 #56
Gonna be some midnight oil burned at the White House tonight. Grammy23 Jan 2019 #42
I've been wondering the same thing DesertRat Jan 2019 #48
I am looking forward to trump's tweet tomorrow Gothmog Jan 2019 #53
I was trying to get some sleep but woke up thinking about tRump Grammy23 Jan 2019 #55
Apparently, Barron and Melania live w/ her parents in VA or MD. CottonBear Jan 2019 #54
IMPEACH THE MF! DesertRat Jan 2019 #45
LOL Scurrilous Jan 2019 #49
Cohen should already be behind bars, but has agreed to talk in public to flush Trump out Doodley Jan 2019 #51
Trump lies constantly torius Jan 2019 #52
Sounds like Barr thinks Trump telling Cohen to lie is obstruction of justice Gothmog Jan 2019 #58

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
3. Commanding someone to lie to Congress
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:32 PM
Jan 2019

Is much worse than lying to Congress.
What a fucking conspiracy.
Do we have enough to file charges yet?

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
4. This is huge...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:32 PM
Jan 2019

snipped:

"The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office."

You see that! Evidence in the form of a "cache" of documents, multiple witnesses from the trump organization, texts... looks like Mueller's got Cohen statements corroborated six ways from Sunday. Love it!


Soooo, evidence that the sitting President of the United States coordinated and sanctioned his lawyer to lie to Congress. Let that marinate.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation

Basement Beat

(659 posts)
10. I can't WAIT till he testify before the House.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jan 2019

I'll be sure to clear my day and have some great snacks and a bottle of whiskey.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
19. If you read the article, it says that
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jan 2019

Mueller has texts, internal company emails, cache of documents, multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization.

dalton99a

(81,635 posts)
47. WP: Democrats demand investigation after report that Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:30 AM
Jan 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/18/democrats-demand-investigation-after-report-that-trump-ordered-michael-cohen-lie-congress-about-russian-project/

Democrats demand investigation after report that Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress
By Tim Elfrink
January 18 at 12:12 AM

Democratic leaders reacted with fury and demanded an investigation late Thursday following a new report that President Trump personally directed his former attorney, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress about the president’s push for a lucrative condo project in Moscow in the lead-up to the 2016 election.

The Thursday night report from BuzzFeed News cites two unnamed federal law enforcement officials who say Cohen acknowledged in interviews with the office of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III that the president directed him to deceive Congress about key facts linking Trump to the proposed deal in Russia. Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying under oath about those details.

Democrats said that if the report is accurate, Trump must quickly be held to account for his role in the perjury, with some raising the specter of impeachment.

“The allegation that the President of the United States may have suborned perjury before our committee in an effort to curtail the investigation and cover up his business dealings with Russia is among the most serious to date,” wrote Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. “We will do what’s necessary to find out if it’s true.”


Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
16. In how many business hours will Trump be indicted?
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jan 2019
C'mon, Jason Leopold's the author of the piece. *Someone* had to make that joke!

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
18. from Rick Wilson:
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:55 PM
Jan 2019

from Republican operative and Never Trumper Rick Wilson:
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Verified account

@TheRickWilson
Follow Follow @TheRickWilson


I've cautioned everyone to keep your foot off the impeachment pedal because this Senate will never convict.

If this story is true and *proven,* I think there's no choice but to impeach the President of The United States for obstruction and subornation of perjury.



 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
23. From November: Leopold
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jan 2019
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow

During the presidential campaign, Michael Cohen discussed the matter with a representative of Putin’s press secretary, according to two US sources.


Buzzfeed

moondust

(20,014 posts)
30. Makes me wonder
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:27 AM
Jan 2019

if Sen. Klobuchar knew about this new Cohen story and wanted to get Barr on the record regarding obstruction.

Feb. 7 (Cohen Day) is three weeks from today.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
37. Amy Punching up the charges. And he's saying yes.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:08 AM
Jan 2019

Been waiting for Amy to get her swings in after Kavanaugh hurt her feelings about drinking. (her dad.)

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
46. Said it before...I bet he did.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:28 AM
Jan 2019

And he got away w it. Sure an odd thing to brag about. But if youre a rich kid, gangster wannabe.....not so much, especially if he did it. Personally, I think the elder cohen atty(?) the real dirt bag one...may have got his ass out of a jam on that one and he's fancied himself John Gotti ever since. .

ffr

(22,672 posts)
31. Line this Mo-Fo up with Pence right now. Indict. Impeach.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:32 AM
Jan 2019

Get in there Mitch, you complicit Russia loving traitor!

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
42. Gonna be some midnight oil burned at the White House tonight.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:17 AM
Jan 2019

Can you just imagine the chaos within??

Question: Melania went to Florida — correct? So where is Barron? Please say that kid is not alone at the White House with his whacko father. Surely with all their money ( ) they could afford a private teacher for him so he could go with his mother. Maybe she knew the dam was busting wide open. Or tRump had been on a toot and she was sick of his sh*t.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
48. I've been wondering the same thing
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:55 AM
Jan 2019

Where is that poor kid? We never see or hear anything about him. He wasn't even in the family Christmas photo.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
55. I was trying to get some sleep but woke up thinking about tRump
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:10 AM
Jan 2019

and all the news breaking tonight. I will bet his Tweets are off the charts in the early a.m. which, come to think of it, is not that long from now.

I thought Melania’s Parents were at the WH, too. All one big happy family.

But we never hear anything much lately about any of them and tRump mentions being alone in the WH frequently. Even during the holidays. Bet he was discussing his situation with portraits lining the hallways. Oh, to have had access to those one way conversations. Maybe this whole thing has sent him over the edge as he contemplates how to get out of the jam he is in. He has Putin breathing down his neck on the one hand and sees people like Cohen abandoning ship on the other. It must be truly maddening to not be able to control things the way he used to do. No one left to pay off or pay to do your dirty work.

This is going to make one hell of a book but being witness to it (at this stage) is enough to induce insomnia and a big stomach ache. I hope the breaking news of the past 24 hours is a signal things are almost boiling and will reveal a lot of answers. We need a break. Those of us news junkies are on overload and need some real answers, not just more speculation about what it all means.

I definitely need some shut eye before the morning gets here and the talking heads start chewing over last night’s bombshell.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
54. Apparently, Barron and Melania live w/ her parents in VA or MD.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:48 AM
Jan 2019

Barron is enrolled in a private school in the suburban DC area.

That is what I’ve heard about, but who knows what is true. It would seem to make sense though, because Dolt45 tweets about being alone at the White House when schools are in session.

Doodley

(9,142 posts)
51. Cohen should already be behind bars, but has agreed to talk in public to flush Trump out
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:24 AM
Jan 2019

like a rat from a sewer.

torius

(1,652 posts)
52. Trump lies constantly
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:41 AM
Jan 2019

and directs others to lie. The Repugs don't care, and the Dems are the minority. They should impeach but they seem committed to waiting for Mueller, who may be fired soon by his frenemy Barr.

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