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"The most powerful man in the world" has always been a political distinction. However, a person with the sole power to launch America's nuclear arsenal can also be called "The most dangerous man in the world."
Is anyone comfortable with Trump being that man? Even among those who idolize him, do they really want him to have his finger on the nuclear button? Maybe so. Who knows how or what these people think.
But the reality that sane people world-wide understand is that this is a mentally deficient man who should be nowhere near nuclear "buttons," (or even a butter knife).
The ability to remove him from power is, currently and totally in the hands of the Republican Party. How is it possible that none of them seem to give a shit about, not only the survival of the planet, but the survival of their own families: Their wives, their children, and any and all of their other relatives?
At this moment we have a madman in the White House and a political party that has seemingly lost their collective mind.
So my question is: What is it going to take for Republicans to stop Trump? Exactly what does he have to do to make them face reality?
Beats me. Seems we're in a position in which we throw them all out in 2020, or sit around wondering if Trump is going to use his "Big Button" and end any and all possibilities except for a post apocalyptic world.
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)is going to impact us (which it has) we cannot wait until 2020.
He is unfit to hold office. And the Repig party will be finished if they keep on supporting this cretin.
triron
(22,025 posts)I am pessimistic about impeachment and removal. Too many complicit Republican
in the Senate (including McConnell).
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)who are complicit in this especially McConnell the spotlight will hit him was already hitting him last night talking about him on Lawrence O'Donnell. Senator Harry Reid e mail was read. The more I think about things this is not about the wall, it is about grinding the government to a crawl and screwing some vital government departments. Shameful. Also people who really care about our country are working without pay. We are being treated like 3rd class citizens. We need to continue to trudge again and don't even think about those who are smearing Democrats they are the negotiators and know how to govern. The republicans are finished period, let them lash out at those of us who want our country to be NORMAL again. But Putin is the only troubling POS that bothers me.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)He has to become so toxic that supporting him threatens the reelection of at least 20 Republican senators.
Problem is, most republican senators come from states where he's so popular that no matter what he does, the voters still support him.
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)complain that they are loosing money and this shutdown must end.
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)The missiles could be in the air. The procedure can happen extremely quickly.
yellerpup
(12,254 posts)He can't just say, "Go."
Cyrano
(15,071 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,927 posts)The President has sole authority to order a nuclear strike.
yellerpup
(12,254 posts)There has to be a legal reason.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,927 posts)No reason is necessary. The President has the legal authority to order a nuclear strike at any moment for any reason. There are no laws that make first strikes or preemptive strikes illegal, nor is there any requirement that Congress approve the strike beforehand.
[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/12/23/trump-can-launch-nuclear-weapons-whenever-he-wants-with-or-without-mattis/?utm_term=.fe5317563efa|]
Cyrano
(15,071 posts)You don't get to be a general or admiral by being a mindless fool.
So here's my guess. Unless there is a launch by another country: Korea, Iran, Russia, San Francisco; the generals in the pentagon will not authorize a launch of our nuclear weapons. What happens after they've disobeyed an order from the "Faux Commander in Chief" is anyone's guess.
My own opinion is that McConnell and the Republican Party will locate their balls which were cut off when the beast became president.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,927 posts)The whole process, from the President giving the strike order, to the ICBM's clearing the silo doors, only takes minutes. The entire process is designed in which there is little chance for disruption.
The Generals themselves are relegated to only making recommendations on which strike option to use. They have zero decision making authority over launching.
Missile crews are typically don't have anyone higher then a Major, from what I remember. They are trained and have it drilled in their head to authenticate orders then follow the orders. Even if they don't, another crew will. It only takes 2 crews to turn their keys to launch the missiles. Orders are given to multiple crews, just in case some decide to not follow the orders, or some are disabled/killed already. Merely asking the question of how can they know if the orders are coming from a sane President got someone removed from duty back during Nixon's presidency.
To launch, the President has to confirm their identity and order, and a 2nd person must also confirm the identity of the President and that the order is coming from the President. The 2nd person does not have the authority to veto the launch. Their sole job is to authenticate that the orders are coming from the actual President. Nobody can veto the launch. If the 2nd person refused to authenticate, the President can fire them immediately and moved on to the next person. Everything on down from there is the same thing, authenticate then do as ordered.
The possibility of any disruption is minimized because everyone involved in the process, outside of those in the vicinity of the President, knows whats going on. Launch crews do not know where the missiles are heading. They do not know what happened that could have prompted the launch order. Same goes for pretty much everyone on up the chain. Remember, from President's order to missile launch is to be completed in the least amount of time possible, typically as little as 5 minutes for ICBMS, 10-15 minutes for sub launched missiles. There is no time for anyone to question the orders. They just authenticate they are real and do them.
Cyrano
(15,071 posts)Sorry, but I question the motives that seem apparent in all of your posts on this topic. You seem to be in favor of a nuclear was that very few people on this planet want to see happen.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,927 posts)I just dont believe putting false hope in some deus ex machina savior that would prevent a psychotic president from doing something stupid.
People reading topics like this should not be lulled into a false sense of security that "someone" can stop it. They need to be aware that it he absolutely can do it. If that scares someone into writing their representatives, donating to Democratic causes, or get politically active, then good. I'd rather that happen then someone not being informed of the reality and put it out of their mind and do nothing.
dalton99a
(81,636 posts)Cyrano
(15,071 posts)They both need to go before anyone can breathe east again.
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)a psychiatric and psychological assessment those are first two questions they ask: is the person (I wouldn't really want to call him that) a threat to himself and others. He is a threat to many others.
All I keep on thinking about the movie is, V for Vendetta, anyone recall one part of the movie where there was massive demonstrations against the government of the US. But this is not a movie, tRump does the sick bastard.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)bdamomma
(63,930 posts)snip of article:
Joe Biden said Tuesday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell stopped the Obama administration from speaking out about Russian interference in the 2016 campaign by refusing to sign on to a bipartisan statement of condemnation.
That moment, the former Democratic vice president said, made him think the die had been cast ... this was all about the political play.
But I think McConnell was involved during the whole Merrick Garland thing. We all knew how he obstructed President Obama in the 8 years he held office.