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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:57 PM Jan 2019

Newly elected Okla. governor disregards Constitution with religious event

Newly inaugurated Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt has not even been in office one week — and yet has already violated the Constitution he took an oath to uphold.

Multiple concerned Oklahomans alerted the Freedom From Religion Foundation that the day after his inauguration, Stitt and his wife attended an Inaugural prayer service at the First Baptist Church of Moore. During the service, he reportedly declared his mission as a governor to be a religious mission, to “join in with what God is doing in Oklahoma.”

“He is about to unleash Oklahoma. … We’re going to engage the nonprofits and the churches to really heal and solve some of these social issues, county by county, that the government can’t do, no law can do, but our Heavenly Father can do,” Stitt said at the event.

Then, Oklahoma First Lady Sarah Stitt followed with similarly troublesome statements, telling Christians to use their position in elected office to convert people to Christianity: “We are God’s kingdom here on Earth. It is our call to go out into our state and save people and bring people to Him.”

FFRF Director of Strategic Response Andrew Seidel has sent a letter to the governor, outlining several constitutional concerns with the event and reminding him of his obligation as an elected official to remain neutral on matters of religion.

“Please understand that you were not elected to be a preacher, but a governor,” Seidel writes. “Your wife also seriously misunderstands both the office of governor — a secular office which ‘has no particle of spiritual jurisdiction,’ to borrow from Alexander Hamilton — and the constitutional limits of that office.”

The Supreme Court has said time and again that the First Amendment “mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion.” Specifically, FFRF reminds, this clear preference for religion may not be propagated in an official government event, with the governor acting in his official capacity.

Of course you are free to attend church, preach at your church, and even teach Sunday school,” Seidel notes. “But you cannot preach in church as Governor Stitt, you must do so as Mr. Stitt, private citizen. In your personal capacity you can freely exercise your religion as you see fit. In your official capacity as an officer of the government, you are bound by the Establishment Clause and cannot abuse that office to promote your personal religious choices.”

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is a national nonprofit organization with more than 31,000 members across the country and in every state, including Oklahoma. FFRF’s purposes are to protect the constitutional principle of separation between church and state, and to educate the public on matters relating to nontheism.

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Newly elected Okla. governor disregards Constitution with religious event (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Jan 2019 OP
"already violated the Constitution he took an oath to uphold" FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #1
Do we know what the State Constitution says about this? Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #2
might be lots of white hoods buried in closets that are gonna reappear nt msongs Jan 2019 #3
So they are saying that god is too weak without their help LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #4
Stitt is what you get if Trump and Pence had a baby. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #5
How much did he talk about this during his campaign? And his very antiLGBT aide? bobbieinok Jan 2019 #6
Not much that I saw. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #7

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
1. "already violated the Constitution he took an oath to uphold"
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:08 PM
Jan 2019

We talk like the constitution protects us.

But the truth is that our shared respect for it is what protects us.

Unless those with no regard for it gain power.

Then it's down to force.

And we need to use force against these motherfuckers.

Wounded Bear

(58,736 posts)
2. Do we know what the State Constitution says about this?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:10 PM
Jan 2019

Just wondering. I'm not sure a governor would take an oath to the national constitution.

LiberalFighter

(51,166 posts)
4. So they are saying that god is too weak without their help
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jan 2019

to solve the problems? That god needs to have someone as governor to give him strength?

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