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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 09:55 PM Jan 2019

If the Unemployment Rate Is So Low, Why Can't Federal Employees Get New Jobs?

You have the Trump administration and Republicans continuing to point to the Trump administration's published unemployment figures. Well, back in prior periods of economic growth, when the economy was booming, you had headhunters and opportunities galore. I recall, in the past, even when the unemployment rate was only under six percent, I would get calls at work from headhunters.

So, you would think that there should be a feeding frenzy for federal workers to get new jobs at least temporarily? Couldn't TSA employees for example, get security jobs, while waiting out the shutdown given that unemployment rate is historically low?

Or, is it just that the unemployment, sort of like the Trump administration's predictions regarding the affect the tax cut, are just make believe?

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If the Unemployment Rate Is So Low, Why Can't Federal Employees Get New Jobs? (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2019 OP
Even in a low unemployment economy it takes a while to find a good job. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #1
yep Demovictory9 Jan 2019 #15
I'm actually surprised some workplaces haven't been poaching. sfwriter Jan 2019 #2
Are you calling the imposter a liar? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #3
Aren't they suppose to be working without pay? Do you mean a 2nd job ? lunasun Jan 2019 #4
They're not legally allowed to for the most part Recursion Jan 2019 #5
First... a fair subset of Federal employees including TSA are NOT furloughed but have to work hlthe2b Jan 2019 #6
This. cwydro Jan 2019 #7
My theory is customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #8
I suspect the low unemployment statistics are exaggerated mostly due to the gig economy... Progressive Law Jan 2019 #9
Not many employers are going to hire someone DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #10
Do they retain their benefits while not getting paid? rickford66 Jan 2019 #11
It's just not that simple. WillowTree Jan 2019 #12
My Point Is Why Not Permanently Get Another Job? TomCADem Jan 2019 #14
They are oberliner Jan 2019 #13
 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
2. I'm actually surprised some workplaces haven't been poaching.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 09:57 PM
Jan 2019

If I ran financial or security services, I'd be snatching away IRS and Secret Service agents.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. They're not legally allowed to for the most part
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:00 PM
Jan 2019

Federal employees cannot take secondary employment without administrative permission, which cannot be obtained during a shutdown.

It's the reason my wife isn't temping right now.

hlthe2b

(102,305 posts)
6. First... a fair subset of Federal employees including TSA are NOT furloughed but have to work
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jan 2019

even though not getting paid. So if they don't show up (e.g., to work a second job), they will have no TSA job to come back to. 2. Others (including those furloughed) are often not allowed to work elsewhere without prior approval. That includes a lot of the professionals at CDC, NIH, EPA, FDA, and elsewhere. 3. How many employers want to hire--not to fill their own needs in terms of coverage and schedule, but rather to help someone they assume will only be there for a short period of time. Do you really think a lot of employers want/can afford to do THAT? 4. Many who work paycheck to paycheck my not be able to invest what it takes to pick up another job--whether that means gas to travel, $$ for appropriate clothing or uniforms, or daycare for their children, given they have no paycheck from their primary jobs.

This is not a simple "just go out and pick up some part time work to tide you over" kind of situation. Frankly, I'm appalled that so many think it is...

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. My theory is
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jan 2019

they're holding out, hoping this shutdown is over with sooner than later.

That might well change after another month or so.

 

Progressive Law

(617 posts)
9. I suspect the low unemployment statistics are exaggerated mostly due to the gig economy...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jan 2019

...people are considering themselves "employed" because they drive a car for Uber, deliver packages for Amazon, or do some other type of "gig" job. I highly doubt there is an abundance of career type jobs going unfilled.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
12. It's just not that simple.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jan 2019

They're still supposed to be working, even if their pay is delayed. So when would they be job hunting and interviewing etc?

And even if they were able to find something in their wheelhouse that's roughly equivalent salary-wise this quickly, chances are that the benes wouldn't be as good. Not to mention the loss of seniority. And then there's the notorious civil service job security (which sounds kind of foolish under present circumstances, but historically it's pretty hard to get fired from a civil service gig).

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
14. My Point Is Why Not Permanently Get Another Job?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:32 PM
Jan 2019

I recall that many California employees quit State employee out of frustration due to almost annual government shutdowns back when California required a supermajority to pass a budget. So, Republicans in the minority would just shutdown the government if they did not get there way. Eventually, California voters got rid of the supermajority requirement, and Republicans have been in the decline in California ever since. Still, a fair amount of California State employees got so demoralized that they left and never came back.

Here, Trump has been cancelling raises and his administration has almost been gleeful at the prospect of sticking it to employees to make them work without paying them. Why put up with it?

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