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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOMG people *IT ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T MATTER* if the underlying claim is true
You simply have to understand that by now, I hope?
It doesn't matter if the central claim is true. They got something wrong. And they got something wrong under the byline of a reporter who already had a history of fabricating stories. This isn't a fair game. It's rigged, completely. And complaining about that doesn't change it.
We can't fabricate stories. Trump now has several years' worth of ammunition, for free.
hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)Look, I was here when we got burned re: the false indictment report from Jason Leopold re: Rove
and it certainly appears that there are elements of current reporting that are not fully accurate as the OSC has stated. They did not call the reporting false, however and Rosenberg is no quack. That given, to call it
"Fabricated" is to me equally unwarranted given what we know to date.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's one of the basic fundamentals of journalism.
hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)fairness.
They (Buzzfeed) believe what they have reported is accurate, so how, exactly are they supposed to only publish the "correct parts and taken out the inaccurate parts" when the OSC did not tell them what was inaccurate? Nor did OSC correct anything when given the opportunity PRIOR to publication...
That has to be the most ludicrous statement on this I've seen.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)stated the objective might have been only to make clear that OSC was not the source, given some Congressional Reps were taking this and running--even to the point of suggesting Mueller was inappropriate in not contacting Congress of this finding. Well, the finding (whatever it is or is not) may be still be the subject of further related investigations.
We shall see, but I neither discount 100% nor am I willing to run with it as the "smoking gun"--both extremes having been at play the past 18 hours.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)to push back, discussed Whittaker and that it remains unclear if he is overseeing the day to day--the implication being that if he is that he may have made this decision. It was a brief discussion, given it is merely speculation.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)paying attention vis-a-vis Whittaker and the controversies surrounding him?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)manor321
(3,344 posts)You can't make this bullshit true by constantly repeating it. Watch Chuck Rosenberg on Rachel tonight. He destroys this bullshit.
triron
(22,007 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Response to demmiblue (Reply #4)
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demmiblue
(36,865 posts)FakeNoose
(32,659 posts)Another office leaked it - maybe SDNY - who knows? Mueller is not denying the story, and to me it looks like he's trying to take some heat off Michael Cohen. (Cheeto is threatening his father-in-law!)
You guys need to just take a breath and calm down. Have a glass of wine and chill out.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Which is pretty amazing really.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Mueller never said the story is false.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)If something is not accurate, you shouldn't publish it.
hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)If OCS does not correct them when asked prior to publication, how exactly do they know it is incorrect so as to not publish. this makes NO sense whatsoever.
Even worse is your conflating of error with FABRICATION.
We all bristle when a certain someone and his RW ilck constantly accuses the MSM of "fake news". Mistakes or inaccuracies occur. That does not equate to FABRICATION" (unless you are talking about our National Propaganda network--Faux News or their RT Russian counterparts-- or the White House Press Office).
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Things haven't changed.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)I do not recall seeing one message regarding his history of lying until Mueller released his statement.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)As another poster said, he was a hero this morning.
I have to admit, bu I didnt remember he was the one with the Rove story.
When I looked him up - what I learned isnt good.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Several posters mentioned it when the story originally broke.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Jason Leopold is the co-author of the Buzzfeed article everyone is talking about
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211689368
H2O Man
(73,573 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Though admittedly it was a non-Cohen-testimony detail in the article that made me wary of the idea of sharing it round ... this was before the story was on every network ...
honest.abe
(8,679 posts)and it was starting to look like the House might seriously take up impeachment proceedings prematurely. For sure Muellar has alot more on Trump than what Buzzfeed disclosed and he wants all of that available to Congress when the impeachment starts. Thus the warning shot to the bow.
Vinca
(50,285 posts)whole lot of other things on the Don and his crime family. As Rachel pointed out, there must be a reason Mueller took the time and effort to get a guilty plea out of Cohen on perjury and then didn't ask for an additional sentence. It's now on record the perjury happened. There must be documentation behind it as well as other witnesses. Trump is toast and we have to remember that. The problem is that this has gone on for so long we're losing hope justice will eventually win out.