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TexasTowelie

(112,300 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:50 AM Jan 2019

Nasty or frugal? Key Democrats out to stop House members from living in offices

WASHINGTON -- Members of the House of Representatives who live in their Capitol Hill offices shouldn’t get too comfortable.

The practice is going under the knife from the new Democratic leadership. Top Democrats are considering making the live-in lawmakers pay for bunking in prime government real estate — or ending the practice altogether.

“How would you feel about attending a meeting in someone’s bedroom?” asked Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Mississippi, a veteran member of the Congressional Black Caucus, which has spoken against the practice for years.

Office-dwellers counter that the practice is frugal and efficient.

“My constituents want me to do the job they elected me to do,” said Rep. Andy Barr, R-Kentucky. “They appreciate frugality too and appreciate the fact I’m focused on doing my job and not moving into Washington.”

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article224506345.html

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Nasty or frugal? Key Democrats out to stop House members from living in offices (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jan 2019 OP
It's expensive to live in DC. greymattermom Jan 2019 #1
Now we'll hear a lot of people who hammered AOC for saying it's expensive in DC, complain. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #20
Can't get more Washington than actually living in the Capital Building. appleannie1943 Jan 2019 #2
Barr should live in a box Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #3
Guthrie is my rep too Bayard Jan 2019 #14
at least he's better than our senators Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #15
No, not possible Bayard Jan 2019 #18
This is a priority issue? janterry Jan 2019 #4
No, it isn't a priority issue. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #6
Agreed, there are better things to do. brush Jan 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tech Jan 2019 #5
As long as what they sleep on and/or with is tucked away... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #7
I think that housing at a separate location is more appropriate. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #9
Perhaps if they didn't feel need to sneak, they could... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #11
They don't make much considering the cost of living madville Jan 2019 #10
Yeah, it might be less than the cheapest place in the country PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #12
I support dorms sarah FAILIN Jan 2019 #13
I think dorms are a good idea. Luciferous Jan 2019 #16
I support dorms too crazycatlady Jan 2019 #19
Perhaps we need a Congressional Dormitory. MineralMan Jan 2019 #17

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
1. It's expensive to live in DC.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:55 AM
Jan 2019

Maybe they could take over a floor of a dorm and charge the same thing the college students pay. They could even give them a discount for doing some educational discussions with the students.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
20. Now we'll hear a lot of people who hammered AOC for saying it's expensive in DC, complain.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jan 2019

.


About that dorm suggestion:

Then, everyone will know who are banging the interns, prostitutes, sheep, or conflict with "Family Values."

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Hermit-The-Prog

(33,379 posts)
3. Barr should live in a box
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jan 2019

Here's one Kentuckian who would prefer Barr and Guthrie live in a box -- with bars on the door and windows.

I keep voting against them but can't get enough others to do the same.

Bayard

(22,112 posts)
14. Guthrie is my rep too
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

The only good thing I can say about him is that he has polite office staff when I call in to rail.

Yeah, I keep voting against him too.

TexasTowelie

(112,300 posts)
6. No, it isn't a priority issue.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:12 AM
Jan 2019

Later in the article it states:

Lofgren said the process for addressing the housing issue would start with public hearings, though she said it’s hard to say when that will happen since her committee has to attend to other priorities first. The final decision could ban members from living in their offices altogether or charge them for using the space.

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WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. As long as what they sleep on and/or with is tucked away...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jan 2019

and not looking sloppy when I go in, I honestly couldn't care less that they sleep there.

I know their pay sounds very high to most of us but it doesn't go far if you're supporting a family and two residences, especially if one of them is in a high cost area like DC.

That said, having space converted to a bunch of studio dorm or motel room type of space for reps to live while in DC makes absolute sense to me. Perhaps charge them a few hundred a month towards it and maintenance.

TexasTowelie

(112,300 posts)
9. I think that housing at a separate location is more appropriate.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jan 2019

The problem is that they were catching members in robes, pajamas, or partially undressed. No professional office worker or member of the cleaning crew should feel like they are spinning the roulette wheel each time they open a door.

Provide options for studio, one, and two bedroom apartment living spaces that are easily accessible to the Capitol at a subsidized price. They can even offer them a subsidized meal service so they don't have to travel back to the Capitol.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
11. Perhaps if they didn't feel need to sneak, they could...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jan 2019

work with the cleaning crew, etc so awkward moments would be far less likely to happen. That's what a locked door and a 'do not disturb' sign could be used for.

Of course the best solution IMO would be to make some sort of decent apartment housing available at a very low to no cost (perhaps a sliding scale) for reps. IMO people of all income levels should be able to run for office, win and not have to worry about affording basic housing for themselves and/or spouse/SO or children.

I do see your point as things are set up now but I'm also not at all surprised by people crashing on a couch at a work place. If they worked super late or did a double shift it wasn't that unusual in places I worked in eons ago.

madville

(7,412 posts)
10. They don't make much considering the cost of living
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jan 2019

Imagine a California House member needing to maintain a residence there and in the DC area. $174,000 after federal and state income taxes, health insurance, FERS contribution, TSP contribution, etc is probably $9,000 take-home a month at best.

They could easily be on the hook for $4,000-5,000 a month just to maintain two residences. Schumer, Durbin and someone else have been roommates in a townhouse most of their careers for this reason.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
12. Yeah, it might be less than the cheapest place in the country
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:35 AM
Jan 2019

to live, but lots of people who make a lot less money somehow manage.

They don't need a 4 bedroom home in Alexandria. And efficiency apartment somewhere is the area would be just fine. Or rent an apartment with a roommate or two. Heck, they should all be required to take public transportation to and from the capital. That would be vastly more frugal than maintaining a car, and would put them face to face with how a lot of people there actually live and commute.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
13. I support dorms
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jan 2019

They could build a large facility far enough away that it wouldn't be prime real estate. Maybe even on one of the bases might have room, but make it available for all elected officials and their staff. It's expensive for everyone.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
17. Perhaps we need a Congressional Dormitory.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jan 2019

I would apply to be the Resident Manager, in exchange for free rent.

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