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EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:53 AM Jan 2019

What we've *really* learned from BuzzFeed and Mueller's statement

Over the past day, there has been a lot of chaotic reporting on the Buzzfeed article and Mueller.

What have we really learned?


Will Bunch (Philadelphia Enquirer)

1. Today reminds me a lot of one of the most talked-about episodes during Woodward and Bernstein's historic reporting on Watergate, which is probably better remembered as a key plot point in the "All the President's Men" movie.
2. It concerned a mid-level Nixon functionary (and W + B source) named Hugh Sloan. In the fall of 1972, the duo wrote an explosive story that Sloan had testified before the Watergate grand jury and fingered high-level Nixon aides as controlling an illegal slush fund.
3. Their front-page story caused a brief stir, until Sloan's attorney came out publicly and said the story was inaccurate. Woodward and Bernstein (and their editors) were distraught. How they'd make such a mistake? Was the Watergate story overblown?
4. The reporters went back to Sloan and other sources and found that while there'd been a misunderstanding, the essence of the slush fund story was right. But Sloan hadn't testified about it to the grand jury. Why? Because no one asked.
5. Re: Cohen and Trump: What we know from Cohen's plea and related filings, and the narrow, carefully parsed statement from Mueller's office suggests the problem is with how the Buzzfeed reporters got to their conclusion, and not necessarily the essence of the piece.
6. Time will tell. There's a much bigger point to today's chaos. There's a real -- and important -- debate about the secretive and methodical pace of the Mueller investigation. The special counsel's go-slow mode is calibrated to prove the most facts, and get the most convictions
7. That's great, but while Mueller chugs along, America as we know it is falling apart. Congress, tasked with keeping the executive branch in check, has no idea what's going on after two years of GOP intentional ignorance. The media is racing to fill the void with scoops...
8... because that's what journalists do. Mueller's team had a chance to offer Buzzfeed's reporters guidance but instead fostered a day of chaos. That's not serving the public. Team Mueller are not gods. They make mistakes. Their approach should be questioned.
9. But more importantly, it's time for Congress, with a Democratic House, to start serving the public with a public, open process, moving at an urgent deliberative speed, that will determine whether Donald Trump is fit to serve out his term.
10. The obvious vehicle for that an immediate House impeachment inquiry with public hearings ASAP. What just happened today with the Buzzfeed flap makes that need even more urgent, not less so. The secret Mueller probe isn't helping us, the American people, get the government..
11. ...re-opened, or telling us whether the president of the United States is a Russian agent, a question we needed answered yesterday, not months from now. Only Congress and its impeachment vehicle can do that.
So please get to work. Tomorrow if possible. -30-

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We need public hearings now. Because America is falling apart. And Mueller's secrecy is not helping. The special counsel statement yesterday could have been clearer; its vagueness gave breath to the right and to Trump. We need public hearings. Get to work!
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manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. Yes! The House needs to take control.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jan 2019

Mueller is running a criminal investigation, and so is somewhat limited in what it can say.

The House is not limited! Public investigations should begin as soon as possible.

I realize the House needs time to "boot up" after elections, since everyone is elected and there is a lot to do. But Dems need to get on with it urgently. I'm disappointed we have to wait all the way until Feb 7th to wait for Cohen.

Ninga

(8,276 posts)
2. It feels like Mueller is dragging his feet even in the face of the multiple indictments and
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jan 2019

guilty pleas.

What is most disheartening to me is that is appears as though BuzzFeed attempted to vet via Mueller and was met with crickets.

I've now become skeptical of Mueller slow pace....I am worried that his extremely low roll out will fall with a dud and orange face will skate.

I am normally a worry wort...now I am in overdrive.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
4. Any alliance and association with Trump enablers is troubling.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jan 2019

That includes the entire party of treasonous GOP syncopats. You can never entirely trust them including Mueller.

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
5. I have a sinking feeling that we're putting too much faith in Mueller.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:29 PM
Jan 2019

He is a republican. He may be a straight shooter, and very thorough, but as of this minute, I'm hesitant in clinging to him as our savior.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. I have been feeling that way all along.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jan 2019

I have never put a lot of faith in him. I have more faith in the investigators at the state level, because I think that that is where Trump can really get hurt.

Even if Mueller does prove he is as guilty as sin - and I believe he is - I have little faith that he will pay for his crimes on a Federal level. Congress needs to act and we the people need to make sure he is voted out of office at the next opportunity.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
8. On the other hand, the multitude of probable crimes, conflicts, and conspiracies is
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

astonishingly complex. There appears to be an international web of crime. Here is just one other line, also posted on DU:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211694392

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