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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Federal workers refuse to work?
Vital to answering this question, one must be aware that all Federal workers are governed by the Code of Ethical Conduct.
And many, career and temporary, are working under specific Agency agreements if they are unionized.
Speaking as a retired Federal worker, and a Union representative with over 33 years experience, refusing an order is treated as insubordination.
And anyone with experience in the field knows that Arbitrators treat insubordination as a very serious violation.
So when I read statements that Federal workers should refuse to work, I understand the sympathy expressed by the various authors for the unpaid Federal workers, but I also know the consequences of such a refusal to work.
And some suggest calling in sick, but there are also procedures for that as well.
ret5hd
(20,501 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)in any of the Handbooks and manuals that I used.
And it was never referenced in any of the Arbitrations or any other Contractual level hearings where I represented people.
And it was never referenced in any of the Court cases that I cited in my various pleadings.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)their situation to that of people who were bought and sold as property.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)the reality is of course very different as you point out. That said, it is Flu Season and folks do get sick.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And Agencies have rules covering usage of sick leave.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,363 posts)There's a keyboard warrior for every fight.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And even if a person has refused orders, in this instance, all Federal workers work under Federal rules. And I am speaking as someone with over 33 years experience representing Federal workers in an Agency. In my case, the USPS.
And I am speaking as one who trained representatives in the area. Vital to winning any battle is knowing what rules govern the battle.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,363 posts)Knowing those rules that govern the battle is vital for the current survival of the union movement. It's the not-fun part of the work, but it is absolutely vital.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And unions always fight an uphill battle against the rich.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)By a Supreme Court ruling in the 1900's all federal unions must be open shops, also.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In the USPS, my Agency, my particular Union, the NALC, was voluntarily supported by over 92% of the letter carriers. We "sold" the necessity of being unionized as the best way for a worker to deal with management.
So even the open shop barrier can be overcome when the union educates the workers it represents.
obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)They will lose their job, pension, and benefits if they do.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Informational picketing is legal, but any signage that is treated as hostile to the Agency is not legal.
And I understand why some here are suggesting a strike, and I welcome the support for Federal workers, but such support must defer to those who know what can be legally done.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,023 posts)Although I experienced a few shutdowns during my career, I was not designated as an essential employee so I was either sent home, or got to stay home. But if I had been designated essential, I certainly would not have refused to go to work.
haele
(12,661 posts)....because you're scrimping to feed kids or pay rent makes one dull and listless, after all. You can't be punished for trying to work and fail due to low blood sugar.
But that can become a problem with the backlog and short staffing. The important government work becomes harder to complete on time and within budget.
Haele
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)can portray this as "proof" that Government does not work.
Vinca
(50,288 posts)Would you work for free and then go to a food bank to feed your family? If this doesn't end soon, we'll lose a whole lot of good people to the private sector and you sure can't blame them.