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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:13 PM Jan 2019

Petition regarding Covington Catholic High School, started by an alumnus:

(long, but every word is good, sorry)

Immediate change at Covington Catholic

Most Rev. Foys,

I write to you as a Christian, a graduate of Covington Catholic High School, a parishioner of Holy Spirit Parish in the Covington Diocese, and as a father of an 8th grade boy deciding where he will attend high school next year.

I am sure that you, as many of us in the Covington Catholic community, are disappointed and concerned about the recent actions of a number of CovCath boys in Washington D.C. at the March for Life.

In response to this issue, I urge you to demonstrate swift and decisive leadership.

Specifically, I am petitioning you to take the following actions:

1. The immediate termination of the school principal, Mr. Robert Rowe, for fostering an environment where these types of actions and words are condoned.

2. Appointment of a board of Covington Diocese Catholics to thoroughly review CovCath’s admissions, educational standards, administration and social mission. This board should report directly to the lay population of the Diocese.

3. Cease any further association of CovCath with the March for Life. The time and money previously used for this trip should be redirected to Welcome House, a Catholic organization with a long track record of supporting the lives of the most vulnerable Covington residents.

Unfortunately, what happened in D.C. should not be a surprise to anyone who has been associated with CovCath. The above photo (from last year’s March for Life) was in the CovCath recruiting brochure my son received a few months ago:

Forgetting the fact that including "MAGA" propaganda in the school's recruitment material is likely illegal under the Johnson Amendment, it also shows a complete lack of judgement by CovCath administration.

CovCath is the only boys’ high school in the Diocese and its stated mission is to embrace the Gospel message of Jesus Christ in order to educate students spiritually, academically, physically and socially. CovCath is an institution in the service of all of Northern Kentucky – rich or poor, Republican or Democrat, immigrant or native born.

I have watched with concern over the years as CovCath has become less diverse, more elite, and more expensive - even as the surrounding community has become more economically and ethnically diverse. It was not many years ago that CovCath’s student body was primarily working-class boys from the urban areas in our diocese. I am not sure what happened in the last generation, but CovCath has simply made itself inaccessible to too many boys in our Diocese.

I am comforted by the fact that most of us in the CovCath Community are generous and kind Christians and that the events in D.C. are not reflective of most upstanding men who went through CovCath.

However, you would need to be willfully ignorant to maintain that CovCath administration has not allowed certain elitist and exclusive tendencies to take root in the school.

It is abundantly clear that CovCath has lost its way under current leadership and significant changes need to be made at the institution.

Your brother in Christ,

Matthew Lehman

Covington Catholic class of 1995

https://www.change.org/p/rev-bishop-foys-immediate-change-at-covington-catholic?recruiter=89187199&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=1cbf763f017342939dc9997f64756514&recruited_by_uuid=ce48dbe4-23fd-42e5-ae13-8dee8c26b5a7&utm_content=fht-14198591-en-us%3Av5&fbclid=IwAR2OamzRhMvZDbc4v3hM_p-bdYZQ6K5eMaPaqjForGnRjSqfS67iVedUqd0

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Petition regarding Covington Catholic High School, started by an alumnus: (Original Post) George II Jan 2019 OP
That is the kind of Catholic I grew up with mcar Jan 2019 #1
Covington is exactly like the Catholic high school I went to Generic Brad Jan 2019 #13
Sorry to hear that mcar Jan 2019 #42
Let me say that there is much there that reminds me of my Catholic high school rurallib Jan 2019 #47
Wow! Nice! dhol82 Jan 2019 #2
For this thread Gothmog Jan 2019 #3
Ug. They seem more upset this marred their March for Life forced-birth orgy. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #12
That was my impression also Gothmog Jan 2019 #25
That made me take notice too. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #61
after 33 angry comments in response to their "statement" Dr Vegas Jan 2019 #22
I'd be curious to see if this falls on deaf ears. dem4decades Jan 2019 #4
You can be assured it will fall on deaf ears. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #8
No, the poster can certainly not be "sure". whathehell Jan 2019 #48
Oh, right. my bad BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #58
Lol whathehell Jan 2019 #59
That is an excellent letter from Matthew Cha Jan 2019 #5
"sadly on brand." Yup. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #15
And, "That Native American man showed incredible strength and dignity" Cha Jan 2019 #19
Read he's a Vietnam Veteran as well... a kennedy Jan 2019 #21
Yes he did. Heartbreaking to watch. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #27
Forgetting the fact that including "MAGA" propaganda in the school's recruitment material 👀 lunasun Jan 2019 #6
Well said MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #7
+1 fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #64
Where I live, this crud is most likely to happen in Baptist basement schools or homeschooling. Hoyt Jan 2019 #9
That's what I thought too LeftInTX Jan 2019 #10
"However, you would need to be willfully ignorant to maintain that CovCath administration has AJT Jan 2019 #11
Ban these hateful hats Gothmog Jan 2019 #14
Amen, brother Lehman. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #16
I'd love to see the recruitment material MagickMuffin Jan 2019 #17
I went to an all-male high school in NYC (way back in the '60s) and there was nothing like this.... George II Jan 2019 #18
I just signed the petition and posted it to Facebook. Stonepounder Jan 2019 #20
Pretty good but I would add GusBob Jan 2019 #23
Agree 100%, especially the counseling and community service. nt Laffy Kat Jan 2019 #44
Excellent! orangecrush Jan 2019 #24
Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #26
First Georgetown Prep, now this. Dawson Leery Jan 2019 #28
No mention of boys actions and consequences for these young men...? pbmus Jan 2019 #29
The Covington Dioceses issued a statement: Stonepounder Jan 2019 #32
What utter tripe. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #40
Quite correct - Delphinus Jan 2019 #49
Great letter. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #30
My Letter Mabel Jan 2019 #31
K&R welcome to DU... Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2019 #33
Thank you for your remarks demosincebirth Jan 2019 #62
This Ojibwe thanks you, Mabel. Sadly, we haven't had the best history with the Catholic Church, catbyte Jan 2019 #36
Thank you !!!! Mabel Jan 2019 #43
Thank you for your excellent post that represents ACTION. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #63
I care to write. MontanaMama Jan 2019 #45
Welcome to du, Mabel! Heartstrings Jan 2019 #68
This image says it all. catbyte Jan 2019 #34
That young man sitting on the stool is not much different from Mr. Phillips earlier today..... George II Jan 2019 #35
propaganda in the school's recruitment material is likely illegal under the Johnson Amendment elmac Jan 2019 #37
as I understand it, it is seldom enforced and Trump wants to repeal it. Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #39
I know during the last few days before tRump stole the election tRump signs sprung up in a local elmac Jan 2019 #56
If he got in a priest's or Bishop's face as he did with Mr. Phillips, Jake Stern Jan 2019 #38
I wonder wonder, in the parishes tomorrow GusBob Jan 2019 #41
Too bad the money Scarsdale Jan 2019 #46
Judging by the photo posted in the linked story, yes RVN VET71 Jan 2019 #51
Covington Catholic isenhour Jan 2019 #50
Great letter to covcath (covfefe?). Another post shows the parent(s) of delinquent won't erronis Jan 2019 #52
Alums need to pull support financially M_Demo_M Jan 2019 #53
Catholic missionaries terrorized women and children on the Rez. mickswalkabout41 Jan 2019 #54
Now THAT'S more like it. Paladin Jan 2019 #55
I gave up Catholicism for Lent a while ago. cab67 Jan 2019 #57
Eloquent BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2019 #60
The principal is quite useless... Politicub Jan 2019 #65
Signed! burrowowl Jan 2019 #66
Where's Mitch? Capperdan Jan 2019 #67
Where the hell were the adults/chaperones during jb5150 Jan 2019 #69
Signed and shared on Facebook. muntrv Jan 2019 #70
kick Dawson Leery Jan 2019 #71

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
13. Covington is exactly like the Catholic high school I went to
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jan 2019

And that was in the 1970’s. I never fit in there.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
47. Let me say that there is much there that reminds me of my Catholic high school
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:13 AM
Jan 2019

so I understand what you are saying here.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
2. Wow! Nice!
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:19 PM
Jan 2019

Good to know that there are decent people in this community.
Wonder if Mr. Lehman will now get death threats?

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
61. That made me take notice too.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 04:20 PM
Jan 2019

What the Hell is that about. Were they going to the March For Life (even though they are MAGA asses)? That seems like a conflict of interests. And isn't the March for Life a "good" thing for youths? I am not in agreement with this group of students, this particular parent and the school in general. They are not loving Christians, they are hate filled hypocrites. Gee, what a surprise from an expensive, private religious school (sarcasm). Some things never change. Kavanaugh must be so thrilled.

Dr Vegas

(456 posts)
22. after 33 angry comments in response to their "statement"
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:57 PM
Jan 2019

I found the Comment section on their blog now "closed".

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
8. You can be assured it will fall on deaf ears.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:31 PM
Jan 2019

I have zero doubt about that. Reading the letter it sounds like the school has devolved into a place run by far right extremists.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
58. Oh, right. my bad
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jan 2019

A far right religious school will suddenly reverse course and condemn their own racist, elitist culture over this incident. Because that happens literally all the time.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
59. Lol
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 03:26 PM
Jan 2019

Sorry, but I doubt you know enough about the school to damn it as "far right" "racist" and "elitist" and even if you did, you can't definitively state that this particular group of creepy boys were acting out the values of the school -- Adolescents are inclined to rebel.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. Forgetting the fact that including "MAGA" propaganda in the school's recruitment material 👀
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jan 2019

“Forgetting the fact that including "MAGA" propaganda in the school's recruitment material is likely illegal under the Johnson Amendment, “

“However, you would need to be willfully ignorant to maintain that CovCath administration has not allowed certain elitist and exclusive tendencies to take root in the school. “


Ok so the boys in the vid were just what the school was looking for in a student when recruiting

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
7. Well said
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jan 2019

It’s probably too late to change the culture. Catholic schools educated my ancestors, most of whom did not have 2 pennies to rub together. The elitism has taken over many of these schools.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Where I live, this crud is most likely to happen in Baptist basement schools or homeschooling.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jan 2019

This dad has it right.

The parents of those kids ought to be publicly shamed too.

LeftInTX

(25,287 posts)
10. That's what I thought too
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jan 2019

Catholics schools are fairly "secular" and they should know better. The school should have never sent them there.

Those kids don't care about RTL.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
11. "However, you would need to be willfully ignorant to maintain that CovCath administration has
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:40 PM
Jan 2019

allowed certain elitist and exclusive tendencies to take root in the school."

Gee....I thought elitists were all Democrats.


I am glad that the teachings of Christ have been brought up. That seems to have gotten lost over the last decade+.

MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
17. I'd love to see the recruitment material
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jan 2019

And yes I agree that "The immediate termination of the school principal, Mr. Robert Rowe, for fostering an environment where these types of actions and words are condoned."

Perhaps as a country we should do away with gender based schooling.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. I went to an all-male high school in NYC (way back in the '60s) and there was nothing like this....
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:48 PM
Jan 2019

....but then again we were all nerds.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
20. I just signed the petition and posted it to Facebook.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jan 2019

I encourage others to sign. You don't have to be a Catholic to be appalled. I'm particularly upset by this, since we don't see a whole lot of this type of BS around here (and by 'around here' I live about 8 miles from CovCath).

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
23. Pretty good but I would add
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jan 2019

Everyone on that trip who is not expelled or suspended cannot walk for graduation

Any sibling that attends Catholic schools should be removed

Parents must attend counseling with their students

All the students must perform 3 months of community service

No letters of recommendation for any students for job, college or military service

In the good Catholic way punish all the sinners and guilt trip them all, less they go to hell

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
29. No mention of boys actions and consequences for these young men...?
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:15 PM
Jan 2019

I also would like to see parents shamed..

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
32. The Covington Dioceses issued a statement:
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/01/20/opposed-dignity-human-person-kentucky-catholic-diocese-condemns-teens-who-taunted-vet-march-life/

Acts of Faith
‘Opposed to the dignity of the human person’: Kentucky Catholic diocese condemns teens who taunted vet at March for Life

In a statement Saturday, the Catholic high school and diocese some of the teens belong to issued a statement of apology to the man, Nathan Phillips, and to “Native Americans in general.”

“We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic high school students,” a statement by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington and Covington Catholic High School read. “This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person. The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion. We know this incident also has tainted the entire witness of the March for Life and express our sincere apologies to all those who attended the March and those who support the pro-life movement.”

Mabel

(79 posts)
31. My Letter
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:33 PM
Jan 2019

Although I've been reading news on this site for years, this is the first time posting. I was also very upset about the CovCath incident and wrote a letter to the Diocese reminding them that Catholics many times in history have been the target of discrimination and perhaps they have more in common with minorities than racists. The address is: Diocese of Covington Chancery, 1125 Madison Ave., Covington KY, 41011 if anyone else cares to write.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
33. K&R welcome to DU...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jan 2019

Many people are making anti-Catholic remarks at Democratic Underground today; but, without Catholics, in New Mexico, voting against Republicans and the entire Trump agenda, we would not have won a single election. Instead, NM is a solid BLUE WAVE!

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
36. This Ojibwe thanks you, Mabel. Sadly, we haven't had the best history with the Catholic Church,
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jan 2019

and this brought up bad memories for me. My mom was born in 1924 and was forced to go to an Indian school run by nuns. Suffice it to say, she never forgot the abuse. Welcome to posting!

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. That young man sitting on the stool is not much different from Mr. Phillips earlier today.....
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:59 PM
Jan 2019

....just ignored what was going on around him and kept drumming and chanting.

This is appropriately MLK Jr. holiday weekend. He would be proud of Mr. Phillips.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
37. propaganda in the school's recruitment material is likely illegal under the Johnson Amendment
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:03 AM
Jan 2019

is this even being enforced anymore?

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
56. I know during the last few days before tRump stole the election tRump signs sprung up in a local
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jan 2019

church yard on main street. They were up for at least 24yrs before someone took them down. Most churches, imho, work for satan.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
38. If he got in a priest's or Bishop's face as he did with Mr. Phillips,
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:05 AM
Jan 2019

the school admin would have had him 86'd from the school before he even got home.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
41. I wonder wonder, in the parishes tomorrow
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jan 2019

What the sermons will be

This guy attends Holy Spirit

No kids go to mass anymore. Hope the grown ups get a tongue lashing from the priests

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
46. Too bad the money
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:38 AM
Jan 2019

wasted on those overpriced hats was not donated to a charity instead. Do these students wear the hats to school, I wonder? Maybe the school's tax exemption should be revoked after this blatant hypocrisy.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
51. Judging by the photo posted in the linked story, yes
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:59 AM
Jan 2019

Those MAGA hats are in evidence, with one young Trumper pointing to the hat on his very own empty head to make sure it is noticed.

It is, apparently, considered a good thing at CovCath, whose concept of Christ has him sitting on a throne beside the Orange Faced serial adulterous, racist, bigoted, greedy traitor. Jesus, it's not You, it's Your followers.

isenhour

(15 posts)
50. Covington Catholic
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:47 AM
Jan 2019

As a graduate of CCH class of 73 I applaud Matthew and I signed his petition.Hopefully it will not fall on deaf ears. A reminder to everyone Covington is in a congressional district that is redder than red,with a few blue spots in Covington. Covington Catholic gets most of its boys from the suburbs which are heavily red. The point being they get this stuff from home,supporting this lying bastard, and reinforced at school. It is a different high school than I went to, it was a bit more urban and the teachers the brothers and priest were accused,with good reason of being too liberal.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
52. Great letter to covcath (covfefe?). Another post shows the parent(s) of delinquent won't
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jan 2019

take positive action to help him learn true xianity.

Mother of teen staring down Phillips blames "fake news"

M_Demo_M

(158 posts)
53. Alums need to pull support financially
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jan 2019

I'm sure this school, like most private Catholic Schools, rely on donations from alumni. Alumni saying they will not donate until the school takes real action is the best way to get the school's attention.

mickswalkabout41

(145 posts)
54. Catholic missionaries terrorized women and children on the Rez.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jan 2019

For a long time. Their crimes are still being uncovered and the atrocities are horrific looks like they are grooming their young men to not only become racists,but also protected pedophiles.
If the pope himself doesn’t do something soon. Something meaningful with action instead of words. Or thoughts and prayers, they will be even deeper in the shrouds of deception.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
57. I gave up Catholicism for Lent a while ago.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jan 2019

It more or less stuck. But the Catholic Church I knew was a lot more diverse and far more open than the students in the video.

(I started last night thinking, 'it's wrong, but they're kids.' Then I saw the comments one of the mothers of these kids made in defense of his behavior, and I'm actually feeling a little bit of pity. They were clearly given very poor guidance at home, and they'll have to work hard to overcome the limitations in life caused by their upbringing.)

Anyway - this petition reminds me that the kind of Catholic community I fondly remember is still alive.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
65. The principal is quite useless...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jan 2019

if he was unable to step in and stop the verbal bashing of the veteran. Might as well had a stump as the chaperone instead. At least it would be something to sit on if the students got tired of berating native Americans.

burrowowl

(17,639 posts)
66. Signed!
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jan 2019

I went to a Catholic school and it was during the liberation theology movement what are these idiots Opus Dei?

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