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Everyone should watch the full video of the CCHS students (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2019 OP
K and R dewsgirl Jan 2019 #1
Have you had a chance to watch it? oberliner Jan 2019 #2
At the end of the day the High School kids .. SHOULD HAVE ... had chaperones to make sure uponit7771 Jan 2019 #18
We need to know the backstory of how each group came be in DC this day hexola Jan 2019 #3
March for Life was why those students were there oberliner Jan 2019 #4
Understood - but that's too vague. hexola Jan 2019 #5
It's the Roe v Wade anniversary oberliner Jan 2019 #6
I know - that's not what I mean hexola Jan 2019 #7
Interesting oberliner Jan 2019 #8
It's a Catholic school jberryhill Jan 2019 #9
Exactly. cwydro Jan 2019 #10
It says on Covington's Web Site Hstch05 Jan 2019 #23
So how many ALL MALE Catholic groups were at the rally? hexola Jan 2019 #11
It appears that a lot of Catholic groups (including high schools) travel many miles to attend oberliner Jan 2019 #12
Yes - it's a huge deal jberryhill Jan 2019 #13
In case anyone else is confused MFL is Jan 18 - Womens March was Jan 19 hexola Jan 2019 #15
Also not a coincidence jberryhill Jan 2019 #20
All the Catholic High Schools from my city went. Blue_playwright Jan 2019 #29
I work downtown and drove by dozens of buses on Friday. From all over the country. onenote Jan 2019 #14
Pathetic. I can't believe how they are indoctrinating these kids before they barely smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #31
They go every year. cwydro Jan 2019 #25
they go to a Catholic school dsc Jan 2019 #17
That makes me absolutely sick. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #32
BUSED THERE BY THEIR SCHOOL- like most of the March fo "Life" sharedvalues Jan 2019 #22
Changes nothing. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #16
+1, the response to Phillips is the focus and chaperones should've been able to teach the kids that uponit7771 Jan 2019 #19
Changes nothing. Kids were hateful sharedvalues Jan 2019 #24
No I didn't watch the whole video. kacekwl Jan 2019 #21
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2019 #26
Religion promoting hate and violence as always Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #27
Covington Catholic isenhour Jan 2019 #28
Thanks for your inside perspective. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #33
The annual tuition is $8K oberliner Jan 2019 #35
That's cheap by private school standards hexola Jan 2019 #36
How did it end? WhiteTara Jan 2019 #30
I don't want to characterize the video inaccurately oberliner Jan 2019 #34
I would watch, but we have satellite and WhiteTara Jan 2019 #37
The kids eventually walk away, the Native American group cheers, the Black Israelites keep ranting oberliner Jan 2019 #38
Thank you. WhiteTara Jan 2019 #39
Thanks for this video. What a mess. This is why I try to wait when hot news is posted, it Autumn Jan 2019 #40
People seem to not want to watch the full video oberliner Jan 2019 #41
It's uncomfortable for people when they find out they are completely wrong Bonx Jan 2019 #42
Yeah I am surprised by some of the reactions here myself... EX500rider Jan 2019 #44
I agree, talk about violence towards the kids and Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #50
The whole video doesn't fit what they want it to fit. Autumn Jan 2019 #43
This is what fucking happened ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #49
I don't know how people figure talking about the whole fucking event is giving the little bastards Autumn Jan 2019 #51
WTF am I missing here? How on earth does anything the Black Israelites said to the students Goodheart Jan 2019 #45
Does anything excuse the Black Israelites shouting the n-word at a black high school student? oberliner Jan 2019 #46
Why would I excuse that? Goodheart Jan 2019 #47
Nothing excuses them. They are a wing-nut hate group ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #48

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
18. At the end of the day the High School kids .. SHOULD HAVE ... had chaperones to make sure
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:32 AM
Jan 2019

... a situation doesn't escalate and to teach them how to respectfully approach a situation where if they thought they were being harassed they come on out on top.

Right now even with the elongated video the response to Phillips makes them look like little jerks where dialogue would've served everyone better.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
3. We need to know the backstory of how each group came be in DC this day
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:46 AM
Jan 2019

I know there are marches and demonstrations in DC all the time - but since this was to be a bigger day because of the Womens marches - this becomes a special target.

Im reminded of some of the groups and activities the Russians were able to gin up in the 2016 election.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
5. Understood - but that's too vague.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:49 AM
Jan 2019

I mean - who came up with the idea to go there?

How did they get the idea?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. It's the Roe v Wade anniversary
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:51 AM
Jan 2019

They have a march around this time every year - have been doing so since 1974.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
7. I know - that's not what I mean
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:54 AM
Jan 2019

Thats way too broad an explanation...

Remember this?

https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/18/media/black-fist-russia-self-defense-classes/index.html

This is the kind of activity Im suggesting might have brought certain groups to DC this day.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. It's a Catholic school
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:00 AM
Jan 2019

It was s school trip organized by the diocese. Russian trolls aren’t needed to get Catholics to an anti-choice rally.

Hstch05

(219 posts)
23. It says on Covington's Web Site
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jan 2019

that they have been taking students to the march since 2008. It is such an annual event that there is a specific sub heading for it on their web site.
Also on the page, there is a picture of several of the boys from last year's march wearing MAGA hats.

[link:https://www.covcath.org/campus-life/spiritual-life/march-for-life|

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
11. So how many ALL MALE Catholic groups were at the rally?
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:05 AM
Jan 2019

I would not dismiss this...I could see the local schools participating - but from Kentucky?!

Were there a lot of Catholic Groups that traveled hundreds of miles to go to the march?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Yes - it's a huge deal
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:18 AM
Jan 2019

This march is an annual event which is heavily promoted nationally among Catholics and Protestant anti-choicers near and far.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/march-for-life/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

“(CNN) — Crowds of people packed the National Mall on Friday for the March for Life, an annual march against abortion.
Citizens from all corners of the United States braved the frigid weather, chanted anti-abortion slogans, waved flags and hoisted signs as activists and lawmakers argued against the practice of abortion.”

Rolling something like that into a field trip to DC is not at all an unusual thing for a Catholic school to do. There were likely more schools from Covington there, since one of the adults with them is the superintendant of schools for the diocese.

Expecting some sort of accounting of every group there is a ridiculous demand, since it’s not as if there is anyone keeping a census of groups that show up.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/01/19/video-shows-apparent-incident-indigenous-peoples-march/2623820002/

“The school and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington issued a joint statement Saturday afternoon after millions viewed videos of the imbroglio and hundreds if not thousands denounced the private, all-boys school. The school has traditionally sent students to D.C. for the annual March for Life.”

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
15. In case anyone else is confused MFL is Jan 18 - Womens March was Jan 19
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:29 AM
Jan 2019

So all these people were in DC that weekend - what could go wrong...???

Why do they schedule the Womens March so proximate to the MFL?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Also not a coincidence
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:35 AM
Jan 2019

The March for Life has been going on for decades, and approximates the anniversary of Roe v Wade.

The Women’s March has been going on for three years and was originally to coincide with the inauguration of Trump.

So, yes, these two things happen at the same time of year.

On any given weekend, though, there can be all sorts of rallies, protests, and what-have-you going on in DC.

onenote

(42,701 posts)
14. I work downtown and drove by dozens of buses on Friday. From all over the country.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:23 AM
Jan 2019

I was stuck in traffic for over an hour before giving up when I couldn't get to my office due to road closures. I was stuck behind or saw parked along the road buses with license plates or company logos from all over the country. The most distant of them came from Colorado, which is probably 3x the distance to DC as the distance between DC and Covington KY. And there were others from North Carolina, Illinois, Tennessee, Alabama, etc.

So yes, there were many Catholic groups that travelled hundreds of miles to attend the march. There are every year.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. Pathetic. I can't believe how they are indoctrinating these kids before they barely
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jan 2019

know what sex and procreation is all about. Do you think Catholic schools teach their students anything about sex or safe sex? I highly doubt it. This is so fucked up.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. That makes me absolutely sick.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

These kids have no idea what they are doing and why they are doing it. Are they all going to remain starched little virgins until they are married?

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
22. BUSED THERE BY THEIR SCHOOL- like most of the March fo "Life"
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:02 AM
Jan 2019

Most of the March for Life is indoctrinated school kids getting bused to DC. Without the indoctrinated kids there would barely be any March. That’s why they hold it on a Fri- they’d get fewer schools on Sat, which is when every other March is held.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
19. +1, the response to Phillips is the focus and chaperones should've been able to teach the kids that
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:34 AM
Jan 2019

...dialogue would've been better than responding like jerks.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
24. Changes nothing. Kids were hateful
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jan 2019

I don’t really understand, what’s the point of the whole video besides that the MAGA kids were hateful losers?

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
21. No I didn't watch the whole video.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:51 AM
Jan 2019

After skipping about seems to me like another case of religion gone wild. The cause of many of society's inability to actually be religious. Like money or anything else when you become fanatical about it.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
27. Religion promoting hate and violence as always
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jan 2019

Nothing like a tribe of pampered, religious, children to confront and intimidate those who are smaller in number and (oh no) different. How dare they be different in front of these pampered kids.

It's as if they don't know that American Indians have rights to this country long before their relatives step foot on this continent.

isenhour

(15 posts)
28. Covington Catholic
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:29 AM
Jan 2019

As a resident of Covington and grad of CCH 73 I don't need to see the video, I see it everyday. Covington is in a very red congressional district, with a little blue in the cities .The money to send a child to Covington Catholic makes it too expensive for most today. My single parent mother sent two sons to graduate in 71 and 73. The point being these children learn these things at home and is reinforced at school. They are children and this would be a great teaching moment if the school is up to it. At home they will still find trumpers galore

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. Thanks for your inside perspective.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:43 PM
Jan 2019

What was the school like when you were there?

Anyway, Welcome to DU!

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
36. That's cheap by private school standards
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jan 2019

My HS was that much back in the 1980s!

Nouveau riche? Posers?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. I don't want to characterize the video inaccurately
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jan 2019

I would encourage you to watch it - you can skip to the part where it basically ends and draw your own conclusions.

WhiteTara

(29,711 posts)
37. I would watch, but we have satellite and
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jan 2019

videos don't play very well and to get there would take a few hours. Go ahead, give me your best synopsis. Thanks

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
38. The kids eventually walk away, the Native American group cheers, the Black Israelites keep ranting
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

Everyone mills about a bit - the Black Israelites speak to a smaller assembled group (including some of the students), argue with some of them. The bus arrives and the students leave to get on it.

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
40. Thanks for this video. What a mess. This is why I try to wait when hot news is posted, it
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jan 2019

often has a... but that not quite all there is to the story follow up.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. People seem to not want to watch the full video
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jan 2019

And also seem to not want to talk about some of the awfulness found therein.

Bonx

(2,053 posts)
42. It's uncomfortable for people when they find out they are completely wrong
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jan 2019

Much easier to keep alive a white hot hatred for some high school kids.

EX500rider

(10,847 posts)
44. Yeah I am surprised by some of the reactions here myself...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

....bunch of HS boys being jerks, who ever heard of such a thing!!!

We had one poster saying the kid should have had the drumstick stuck up his nose into his brain which I thought was a little much.

Quixote1818

(28,932 posts)
50. I agree, talk about violence towards the kids and
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jan 2019

Trying to name them all was very disturbing. We can't let ourselves turn into a mob as well. Those posts should be alerted on.

I wrote a long post about all this the other day giving my summary of the long video but was kind of sick to my stomach with everything by the end of the day. I am glad Nathan wants to meet with the kids and have discussions about race and cultural appropriation etc. Want more of that than everyone going to their sides and digging in.

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
43. The whole video doesn't fit what they want it to fit.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jan 2019

The hatred from the two groups was vile and they only want one group to be at fault .

ismnotwasm

(41,979 posts)
49. This is what fucking happened
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:34 PM
Jan 2019

A bunch, at least 50, of undersupervised boys were at at fucking “March for Life” rally.

They wore fucking MAGA hats, so the adults allowed them to fucking politicize themselves. Earlier they had harassed a small group of women— or did you miss that?

They got yelled at by a vile, homophobic hate group of about 5 adult black men. They reacted. A couple tore their shirts off and they started chanting. Phillips came up drumming and singing between the two groups, the boys turned on him.

They are creepy little bigots. Deliberate bigots and misogynistic shitheads.

White youth always seem to get a pass around in the media. It’s more complicated that it seemed at first but it’s certainly not complicated .

Autumn

(45,079 posts)
51. I don't know how people figure talking about the whole fucking event is giving the little bastards
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:44 PM
Jan 2019

a pass. Fuck both homophobic, racist groups. Their so called chaperons were a big part of it, and their fucking church school that breeds and teaches racism and homophobia while tolerating sexual abuse.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
45. WTF am I missing here? How on earth does anything the Black Israelites said to the students
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jan 2019

excuse their racist harassment and intimidation of Mr. Philips? Even an unaffiliated woman in the video scolds the students that they're acting like a mob.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. Does anything excuse the Black Israelites shouting the n-word at a black high school student?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:23 PM
Jan 2019

That seems worthy of some attention as well.

ismnotwasm

(41,979 posts)
48. Nothing excuses them. They are a wing-nut hate group
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jan 2019

What are you suggesting should happen? They get to tell “their side” Oberliner?

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