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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:07 AM Jan 2019

What Does Kirsten Gillibrand Stand For?

January 20, 2019 at 8:43 am EST By Taegan Goddard

Washington Post: “Gillibrand overhauled her political identity during this period, abandoning the conservative positions that made her popular upstate and embracing or even moving further left than the liberal consensus on guns, immigration, Wall Street and same-sex marriage. As the Democratic Party itself moved left, she staked out positions popular with the party’s swelling base of liberals, a posture most evident when she called for abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. She has voted against President Trump’s agenda more than any other senator.”

“Gillibrand’s evolution seemed to reach its apex last week when she introduced herself as a candidate for president and a fighter for liberal values. But her shift in views from a decade ago is already raising questions among Democrats and provoking attacks from Republicans eager to define her as a flip-flopper.”

“Experts who have followed Gillibrand’s rise said the impression that she has hair-trigger judgment and an overriding instinct to capi­tal­ize on the political moment could prove more problematic than any one shift on policy.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2019/01/20/what-does-gillibrand-stand-for/

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What Does Kirsten Gillibrand Stand For? (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
Whatever you want her to stand for . . . that's my impression. A politician's politician. Vinca Jan 2019 #1
+1. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2019 #2
Self interest. ret5hd Jan 2019 #3
"Hair Trigger Judgment" hlthe2b Jan 2019 #4
Kirsten Gillibrand EffieBlack Jan 2019 #5
+ 1000 grantcart Jan 2019 #8
Sounds like Tulsi too nini Jan 2019 #6
This is what I dislike about her. I can't trust that her decisions will be thoughtful and wise... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #7
Herself. Drahthaardogs Jan 2019 #9
She has the strongest anti-Trump voting record of any senator oberliner Jan 2019 #10
Or is that just the popular stance that NY'ers want so she gives it to them? lark Jan 2019 #13
I think she'd make a great president..in 14 years... lostnfound Jan 2019 #11
Mostly herself from what little I've seen. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #12

nini

(16,672 posts)
6. Sounds like Tulsi too
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jan 2019

Warren even has a conservative past though I believe she is in the right place now.

I keep going back to the realization that this Putin plan has been in the works for decades. I am suspicious of anyone who 'evolved'. Street smarts are telling me to be very cautious.

And before anyone says I'm not supporting democrats that is not true. I most certainly do. I also judge each one on what I know about them and keep my eyes wide open. Part of supporting democrats is making sure we hold them accountable.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. This is what I dislike about her. I can't trust that her decisions will be thoughtful and wise...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:14 AM
Jan 2019
“Experts who have followed Gillibrand’s rise said the impression that she has hair-trigger judgment and an overriding instinct to capi­tal­ize on the political moment could prove more problematic than any one shift on policy.”
This is what I dislike about her. I can't trust that her decisions will be thoughtful and wise. I can't be certain that the things she says and does will be in the best interests of her constituents and in the best interests of our nation.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. She has the strongest anti-Trump voting record of any senator
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jan 2019

So I think it's fair to say that she stands for stopping Trump and his agenda.

lark

(23,097 posts)
13. Or is that just the popular stance that NY'ers want so she gives it to them?
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jan 2019

Not because of her own beliefs, but for political expediency. That seems to be her m.o. - no consistency, no loyalty, no searching for deeper truths.

As always, if she is the general candidate (she won't be) for Dems I'll vote for her. In the primaries, there are others so much better than her who I'd love to vote for.

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
11. I think she'd make a great president..in 14 years...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jan 2019

IF she goes through major epiphany-inducing life experiences that clarify and deepen her wisdom and values. That make her understand the superiority of lawyers who refuse to accept tobacco companies as clients, for example. I mean that seriously. If I were her, I’d be regretting some things I did when I was young, and I’d be asking myself why do others seem to make wiser decisions from the outset.

Eventually I will forgive her for the Al Franken episode and would probably happily support her for President in 2032.

People do learn and change. I have faith in LIFE teaching people the things they need to learn, if they will be humble and patient enough to learn them.

I suspect that the U.S. will suffer a great deal in the next fourteen years, so she will have plenty of opportunities to get just a little wiser.

(*positively I will vote for her in ANY general election if she’s the Democratic nominee.)

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
12. Mostly herself from what little I've seen.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jan 2019

The state of New York seems to like her. I'm glad for them and hope they can keep her for a very long time.

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