if any republican is too craven to do what is right.

Impeach the Mother Fucker.

and then Impeach the Mother Fucker.

No one will care how you feel now, and even fewer will care ten years from now. This is no game. We are talking about 21st Century high treason and the future of our democracy.

Are you comparing the Clinton impeachment with this treasonous criminality?

I can't make you understand the use of an example, even if I cared about you.

I have more functional hobbies but countering trollish posters is mild entertainment.

Bye

So there.

...will most likely fail.

Even the Nixon impeachment could have failed because there were party line positions and maybe not enough votes to impeach/convict

It would have remained that way if Judge Sirica didn't rule that the Nixon tapes should be given to Leon Jaworski. The Supreme Court backed up Sirica's ruling and less than two weeks later Nixon resigned, claiming "I no longer have a strong enough political base in the Congress".

Mueller's report could have a similar effect on trump (although he's even more obstinate than Nixon was), so waiting another month or so makes sense - that should break the party line positions and result in a successful impeachment vote and conviction.

Granted, much of the Republican party is radicalized now, but not all. Clinton's crimes were (a) hostile work environment (sexual harassment by virtue of position of power), and (b) lying about it. It's a hard sell to elevate those to the level of impeachment. Trump's crimes are numerous and go to the foundation of the presidency and democracy, from campaign to office.

As to Nixon, Republicans persuaded him to resign because impeachment was likely to lead to removal from office. Trump's crimes are worse than Nixon's hush money fund, obstruction, and lies.

Consensus can be cover, of sorts.

next course of action will be; impeachment.

Justice will prevail.

....Judge Sirica (a republican, by the way) forced Nixon to give the tapes to Jaworski - similar to but not quite the same as Mueller issuing his report. Once the evidence on the tapes was out, republicans could no longer pretend that Nixon was innocent. It took Barry Goldwater, however, to convince Nixon to resign instead of put the country through impeachment and conviction.

If the Mueller report has the evidence that we all thing it has, it could be the equivalent of the Nixon tapes. Then republicans can no longer pretend.

And no one here has refuted the actual point I made in my opening post. It is not a matter of needing cover, as Maxine Waters contends. Waiting for Mueller is strategic.

At first she was the lone voice, but now there are many others joining her. That’s how it starts.

Or else when either party has the votes they will impeach. This is.part of the problem with Clinton's impeachment. It was partisan.

Oh no! Oh no! I compared the impeachment!

<rolling eyeballs>

But maybe you’ve already made up your mind.

And what if I did?

I’ll just stop responding since it’s a waste of time.

Simple.

Made up my mind about what?

I need you to tell me that I have a right? Am I supposed to care what you read?

What on earth are you trying to say?

Here is another question. You find yourself, God forbid, in a real fight. It is your life or your opponent's.

Do you tap your opponent and tease him or her? Or do you muster everything you have and hit as fast and as hard as you can in your opponent's most vulnerable place?

It's no accident that the seasoned Dem heads know this.

A decent prima facie legal case could have been made this summer. Impeachment proceedings could have started one day after the midterms, as some would have had it. The odds clearly would not have been as good as they could be.