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lindysalsagal

(20,682 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:33 PM Jan 2019

My gut call: Of course 45 told everyone to lie, not just Cohen.

He does it every day. He sends Rudy out to lie over and over again.

Mueller must have had a strategic reason to put the brakes on, but ultimately, it's obvious that he's obstructing justince, laundering money and covering up collusion with Putin. It's all obvious.

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at140

(6,110 posts)
1. Not really...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jan 2019

It is an un-written rule and routine for #45 regime.
Everybody already knows to lie and cover for the godfather.
There is never a need to tell individually.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
4. He often uses cutouts, "buffers," as in "The Godfather." But he is such a
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

controlling dolt that he often can't stop himself from getting his own hands dirty because of his impulse to get into the details to prove who is the boss.

Thus he directly dictated Don Jr.'s adoption lie about the Trump Tower meeting, and added the Russian investigation reference to the written note firing Comey.

He also has no filter between his addled brain and his flapping mouth or his frenetically tweeting fingers.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. My gut calls are: trump told lies to everyone he told to lie, and those liars told lies about the
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jan 2019

the lies that they were supposed to lie about, including lies about the former since contradicted lies that they lied about, etc., etc.,

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
7. I believe you're right about that
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:00 PM
Jan 2019

Mueller didn't leak anything to Buzzfeed, probably the source is SDNY.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
8. If you were forced to bet your life on it one way or the other, which way would you go?
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

I know which way I would go and its a no brainer choice.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
9. We already had a thoroughly documented instance of Trump dictating other people's lies...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jan 2019

Don Jr's "adoption" excuse for the Trump Tower meeting, was written on Air Force One by Trump himself along with Kushner, Hicks et al. One of his staffers even resigned over that incident, not wanting to be connected to what he believed was felony obstruction.

And if Trump did it in that case, we would be foolish to assume it is the only instance.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. Did he instruct everyone to lie
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jan 2019

When filling out their security clearance forms ? Because everyone did, by not disclosing all their russian meeting , and all trumps meeting with putin , and all the businesses deals they were trying desperately to get with putins approval , and intentionally lied to cover up all their meeting and contacts up, and probably destroyed evidence too. Trump lied over and over again about it all.

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