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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Freepers acted predictably to the Covington students fiasco...
Blaming the Black Israelites, (of course,) and saying Nathan Philips is a Soros puppet.
Oh, and using a far-right nutjob web site to "prove" their racism, which includes calling the NA's "Injuns."
"The Truth about the Lincoln Memorial Incident (MAGA hat cowboys and Injuns)"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3721591/posts
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... the native drummer.
The chaperones social media post look like they're world class aholes too.
The school is a whites only school in practice.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Goats. Bridge. Komrad!
If you know what I mean
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)There were several folks here at DU yesterday suggesting the teens were provoked, as if that should somehow excuse their behavior.
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)ripcord
(5,372 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)One of the Covington Catholic "chaperones" filmed the back and forth taunting between the kids and the Black Israelites. Why didn't the chaperones move the kids away? Why didn't the chaperones tell the kids to stop engaging? Instead, they filmed it? For an hour?
I believe that the school chaperones hoped to show a video on social media of white kids being "harassed" by black people. I believe that the school instigated the conflict, then passively filmed it, in order to show that they were "victims."
The American Indian man tried to defuse the tension and so the mob of teen males turned on him.
The entire incident makes Covington Catholic School look terrible. Disgraceful failure to guide and protect their students.
ripcord
(5,372 posts)The title is bad enough but it also bothered me that they said the "build the wall" and "go back to the reservation" can't be heard but CNN knows cell phone microphones aren't very good.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Someone even posted an almost two hour long video of the incident which many folks took the time to view in its entirety.
One of of the most admirable things about DUers is how we focus on facts and evidence and draw our conclusions after careful consideration and thoughtful reflection.
Another is how folks here are willing to calmly and respectful engage with one another to try to acquire as much information as possible to help inform our opinions.
These traits are what make the DU community so special, in my view.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Your transparency and earnestness are two of the things I love about you!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... stopped with the BHI idiots and not been levied towards the Native drummer.
Great we agree !!!
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)They were provoked by BI. The NA group was also provoked by BI. everyone on scene commented that Phillips was there to calm down the students or came to the rescue (spontaneous utterances). So if everyone there saw Phillips as a calming influence, why did the kids turn hostile to him?
My thoughts (from most favorable to kids to least favorable)
1. They were angry and confused about Phillips intent
2. Because of their own racism, living in a bubble, they saw the darker skin NA as the same as the BI and equally a provocateur
3. They were angry and frustrated and had the chance to bully and demean a passive person who was their whipping boy.
Unfortunately, I see no.3 as the likely scenario
Its important to note that BI men were taunting and using slurs against all whites, all blacks, all LBGT, all Native Americans. Ugly, ugly slurs. Everyone else seemed to take it in stride. Either walked away, took video, tried to debate. The BI group even heckled a prayer group and called their priest child molesters. The BI group never ever left their space. The boys got dangerously close to the BI group. Anger, and I think, some fascination. They probably had never heard someone elses truth before. Completely sheltered from POC, from girls, from the ugliness of white suppression. Its cute how they used their school chants to intimidate, as if the BI were some rival basketball team. When faced with Phillips, their anger took over and they wanted to make someone feel small.
Spontaneous utterance from woman youre acting like a mob, has to be given credence.
One extremely revealing moment: when an adult said time to leave, bus is here, they moved on a dime, like a well trained army, not the usual herding of cats. Someone had control over them and could have broken up their little intimidation game before it got started. Someone was sitting back enjoying the humiliation game.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... in practice and a good number of the faculty have MAGA like SM post.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1086985105824976902.html
yardwork
(61,599 posts)The chaperone didn't move their group further away. The chaperone didn't tell the kids not to engage with BI. The chaperone stood passively and filmed the interaction for over an hour.
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)and not in a good way.
yardwork
(61,599 posts)School takes dozens of teens to the annual right to life march, which is as political as it gets. This is the annual parade where people hold signs with bloody fetuses, etc. Really extreme stuff.
So the school buses dozens of teens there, all wearing their MAGA hats. They're waiting for a bus for hours in front of the Lincoln Memorial.
As expected, the group attracts attention. And instead of moving the kids away or reminding them not to engage, the chaperone watches and films as more and more kids arrive and join in an escalating situation.