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Here are your poor little victimized white boys. (Original Post) leftofcool Jan 2019 OP
Disrespectful Punks Rorey Jan 2019 #1
If they were my kids 2naSalit Jan 2019 #29
Poor kids jcgoldie Jan 2019 #2
No! No! No! Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #3
Once again, church boys tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #4
Boy, you said it. pangaia Jan 2019 #19
Kick yardwork Jan 2019 #5
This ALONE ... is actually fairly innocuous afa 'bad behavior' goes ... mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #6
This was taken just before they started their tomahawk chops and chants of "build that wall" leftofcool Jan 2019 #7
I even wonder if some of the kids knew that they were taunting rather than participating. Chemisse Jan 2019 #11
A mob characteristic.. Hulk Jan 2019 #26
"You can't positively determine whether they're trying to have fun with him" BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #30
Kids are notorious for being indifferent to the deeper meanings. Chemisse Jan 2019 #32
I used to be a long term sub for junior & senior high BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #34
k for visibility riversedge Jan 2019 #8
Little fucking creeps Yeehah Jan 2019 #9
All trying to pray dalton99a Jan 2019 #10
they had to do that KayF Jan 2019 #12
I went to a Co-Ed Catholic HS and yes a lot of the boys were like this nt maryellen99 Jan 2019 #13
I only lasted one year at Catholic HS for this reason nini Jan 2019 #22
Yeah, they look really scared. cwydro Jan 2019 #14
If the white boys had provided diseased blankets or shot him dead, IronLionZion Jan 2019 #15
Affluenza n/t aggiesal Jan 2019 #17
Ironic. I saw a screen shot of a tweet by someone MrsMatt Jan 2019 #42
Does anyone have a link to them chanting "build that wall?" SansACause Jan 2019 #16
I'd like to punch that guy in the braces right in the mouth. pangaia Jan 2019 #18
How old is he? Glimmer of Hope Jan 2019 #20
No idea. I'm 75. pangaia Jan 2019 #21
LOL Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #23
These are our future republican representatives, senators and judges. Rocky888 Jan 2019 #24
Wait until these little fuckers try to get jobs. If there's such thing as Karma, their future bosses flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #31
Fuck these kids Separation Jan 2019 #25
I stand proudly with Nathan Phillips too!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #27
This firsthand account refutes the MAGA teen's statement Gothmog Jan 2019 #28
The next generation of Brett, Squi, PJ, Tobin... DesertRat Jan 2019 #33
It takes a man to stand up to little baby boys. akraven Jan 2019 #35
I'd hope it will take far more than a P.R. firm to bury this filth. Thank you, leftofcool. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2019 #36
Kick all Covington threads. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #37
Except the ones that post tweets with faked quotes oberliner Jan 2019 #39
Thanks for kicking. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #41
White teen thugs. Hassler Jan 2019 #38
I still stand with Mr. Phillips. Fuck the MAGAts. Initech Jan 2019 #40
"But but what about the black Hebrew Israelites?!11!" BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #43

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
1. Disrespectful Punks
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

My kids would have been smacked into next week......figuratively speaking, of course.

2naSalit

(86,610 posts)
29. If they were my kids
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:20 PM
Jan 2019

And thankfully they are not, I would ground them until they read about 15 books I can think of and write a coherent report on a number of pointed questions designed to help them see what they did and why it was wrong. And they would have to forfeit any and all fun money to some charitable organization that helps Native Americans for at least the entire year.

To think that they can foul our country's sacred space with this sort of unAmerican type of behavior is beyond merely offensive. That they have any defendants at all is a sign of where we are as a nation.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
2. Poor kids
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jan 2019

He obviously has them scared to death and they have no idea how to respond to the intimidation...

Kingofalldems

(38,456 posts)
3. No! No! No!
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:02 PM
Jan 2019

There's a 2 hour video. They were traumatized!!

They were just there to calm things down!!!11!!

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
4. Once again, church boys
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:07 PM
Jan 2019

Sigh - Let down again by their elders.

It is disgusting. Not really a crime being committed here. But allow me go off track for a moment because it is a part of this big picture. I am always amazed as a woman of color that young white men are allowed to make mistakes, and go on with their lives. Young black men, get to be " thugs", go to prison, get killed. If this were a group of young black men. This would be a different story. I shudder to think how this story might have ended.

Mr Phillips had attempted to intervene in an argument between these young men and a group of black men ironically.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. This ALONE ... is actually fairly innocuous afa 'bad behavior' goes ...
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jan 2019

You can't positively determine whether they're trying to have fun with him, rather than mocking him. Put it this way, I won't be sending it around to people I know as evidence of their bad behavior. There's other, more compelling footage of that.

It does, however, prove that the claims that they 'felt threatened' are bullshit, and it doesn't excuse that smarmy kid getting in Phillips face, nor the group surrounding him, nor their chanting 'build that wall' at him.

And the evidence at the Basketball game ... is FAR more damning.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
7. This was taken just before they started their tomahawk chops and chants of "build that wall"
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jan 2019

I do however agree that they were not being threatened.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
11. I even wonder if some of the kids knew that they were taunting rather than participating.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

If you look around the crowd, some seemed a little confused.

When combined with the later footage, it's a great example of group dynamics. Somewhere some sociology student has discovered their thesis topic!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
26. A mob characteristic..
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:13 PM
Jan 2019

I'm sure there were several that had little to no idea what was going on. Typical of mob action.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
30. "You can't positively determine whether they're trying to have fun with him"
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jan 2019

You mean as if he were some court jester or monkey entertaining the crowd?

Why not grow the fuck up and maybe listen to what he is singing? But it's apparent that they like their parents and generations before them, considered the native people here (and my own ancestors from the continent of Africa) as "savages". Not human.

Can you imagine the outcry if a group of black kids started mocking this woman if she were out there singing -

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
32. Kids are notorious for being indifferent to the deeper meanings.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:49 PM
Jan 2019

I agree with the poster in that, if you look back in the crowd, some kids were dancing as if they had encountered a street musician.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
34. I used to be a long term sub for junior & senior high
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:21 PM
Jan 2019

and this was in some of the "worst" schools here in the city of Philadelphia. The irony being that those "worst" schools were also some of the most diverse and to watch the dynamic of kids (including whites) dealing with cross-culture interactions, was fascinating - even if they may have teased each other. Meanwhile the type of nonsense shown in that video from members of an apparent proudly homogeneous school, looks more like what a bunch of 3rd grade kids would do.

In addition here in Philly, we have (or at least had) one of the largest parochial school systems in the country and many of those kids came through the Catholic school system from K-12. If anything, that type of crap was not tolerated. It was such that I was always in awe at how easily the Catholic school kids were able to get jobs over the summer compared to the public school kids. They weren't always innocent but there was a certain discipline that they often displayed.

The stereotypical "tomahawk chop" is STILL going on - I saw dozens of stills and videos just this past week of KC Chiefs fans doing that. The whole debate over the "Redskins" name used for Washington D.C.'s football team, the Atlanta Braves issue, and so on, continues to underscore the perpetuation of the type of stuff these kids were doing and repeating out of pure ignorance and pride of that ignorance.



And this includes black folk too.



"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

nini

(16,672 posts)
22. I only lasted one year at Catholic HS for this reason
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 06:40 PM
Jan 2019

I was not blond and cute - therefore not worthy of anything other than their disgust. I came from a feeder school in the ghetto in their opinion.

HATED every freaking minute of it.

Grammar schools was great..HS was a nightmare.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
15. If the white boys had provided diseased blankets or shot him dead,
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jan 2019

people would still make excuses for them. It a privilege of being white and male, people make excuses for whatever they do.

If it wasn't DC, there would probably be some police brutality against the Black and Native American people and excuses for the white boys.

I would commend the unpaid federal police for not shooting anyone that day.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
42. Ironic. I saw a screen shot of a tweet by someone
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jan 2019

identified as Julie Sanmann (Nicholas Sandmann's mother) where she referenced smallpox blankets and the wish there had been more.

Don't remember which account had shown it.

SansACause

(520 posts)
16. Does anyone have a link to them chanting "build that wall?"
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jan 2019

I've heard this stated, but I haven't seen it, and I don't want to sit through two hours of watching young Brett and his buddies.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
31. Wait until these little fuckers try to get jobs. If there's such thing as Karma, their future bosses
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jan 2019

will all be people of color. With LONG memories.

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
28. This firsthand account refutes the MAGA teen's statement
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:15 PM
Jan 2019



As tensions grew over the course of the encounter, I pulled out my phone, along with several others. Our videos became the documentation of this latest example of bigotry against indigenous lives. But make no mistake, it is not the first, and sadly it will probably not be the last.

People are responding so strongly to these videos because they are so emblematic of the violence that indigenous people have suffered for over 500 years in the United States. We have been raped, relocated, trafficked, separated, degraded, demoralized, and massacred by the United States government and a culture of media, economy, education, and religion that has dehumanized indigenous people for the entire history of this stolen country. Presently, this country continues to poison indigenous people by defiling our water and pumping drugs and alcohol into indigenous communities; regulate native bodies through tribal numbers and blood quantum laws; and force assimilation (culturally, spiritually).
These are tactics of genocide. An ongoing, unrecognized genocide.

These videos are a brutal reminder of a very real unfinished battle that indigenous people are still fighting. We are fighting to be acknowledged, to be counted, to be part of the future. Quite simply, we are fighting to exist.

But these videos are also a testament: a testament to the bravery, dignity, grace, strength, passion, and power of indigenous people. Leaders like Nathan are essential to the survival of indigenous people because they hold experience of our history and traditions. Indigenous elders have given their lives to protect our identities, our sovereignty, our lands, our people, our ways of being, only to be met time and time again with violence — or at the very least, the smug, smirking faces of our oppressors like the boys of Covington Catholic High School.
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